WW 2013 Edition: The Conglomerate

[JKDS]

TLR, Regular Villager, has been killed!

The Conglomerate

Living Members of the board
Boog690
Hoopy
Pascal
Rong
Bikes
Jyms
Wufwugy
Ongbonga
Jackvance
XTR1000
DroptheBanana
Daven
Gabe
Gator
Aubrey
NightGizmo
Keith
Bigred

12 Villagers
1 Seer
1 Even Night Vigilante
4 Wolves

The Deceased
Fulksy, The Angel, Lynched Day1
TLR, Regular Villager, Killed Night 1

It is now Day 2. The day will end in exactly 72 hours. With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch!

[wufwugy]

lol i knew tlr was going to die. his two posts (i think it was just two) were probably the best. i was going to agree with him in one but figured i shouldnt since i think he's right and i would be a night target

looks like hoopy's a wolf and he doesnt like what tlr said

also i think dtb is a wolf


btw, in future games, the angel-fulksy-special thing should simply have the role reassigned. he never even showed up, and we're simply just fucked because of it

[wufwugy]

yeah my wolf list right now is hoopy dtb pascal and probably boog

lynch hoopy

[wufwugy]

actually boog shouldnt be on that list

[bigred]

Let's stop trying to lynch people and focus on how to punch fulksy in the nuts via the internet

[BooG690]

Lynch Bigred as he's still of no use to the village.

Also, Wuf, stop commenting on how the game should be moderated. You're not a mod. Get over it. Let JKDS and rilla do their jobs.

Hoopy's post on JV "casually checking in" deserves more love. It's very unlike Jackvance, a WW vet, to be surprised at the day 1 analysis in a game with both Wuf and Ong.

Additionally, daven totally switched up his game after getting some heat for playing the dumb noob. This may be some coaching being done to switch tactics in the wolves' den. On the other hand, it may also be a noob that doesn't want to get lynched to see how the game plays out. Either way, he's on my suspect list.

Anyway, I'll end my post with this:

Awww snap, we started! Did not realize this. Going to read through thread but a big middle finger goes to TJ since I saw he bolded me.

Bigred, what have you gotten from reading through the thread? Do you have anything insightful to add? Will you actually be useful to the village this time? I'd like to hear something from you.

[bigred]

Also, in vino veritas.

I think gator is most likely a wolf.

[wufwugy]

i think tlr dying means that ong isn't a wolf. i mean, if he is, goddamn he's a jackass because he ALWAYS noms tlr soonest chance he gets

[bigred]

Oh Aryan, umad cause I called you a ninny via the South Dakota facebooks?

[BooG690]

Let's stop trying to lynch people and focus on how to punch fulksy in the nuts via the internet

Guess not.

[BooG690]

daven

There is some inconsistency in his posting as someone else pointed out already, he's my best bet atm. I could switch to Fulksey though, inactives have to die.

Why the absence of "lynch" from a player like JV? JV knows his vote doesn't count simply by bolding a player's name.

Agreed. lynch dozer . Dude be tripping

Bigred doing the same thing here.

[bigred]

Anyone else think boog is being super douche? Should probably lynch him. We gangnam style board members want chill people. Not douchey mcdoucherson

[bigred]

so based on my logic and boog being a douche:

lynch gator

[BooG690]

I'm liking my Bigred lynch more and more, even if he is a villager. To be honest, I regret not voting for him on day 1.

[bigred]

The facts people...THE FACTS

Also, do not buy $7 malbecs. Garbage.

[bigred]

I'm liking my Bigred lynch more and more, even if he is a villager. To be honest, I regret not voting for him on day 1.

Remember when you were a clown?

[bigred]

Did anyone else notice Boog is ok with lynching villagers?

[bigred]

Sup homies, turn your basses up to the max

[bigred]

I'm heading to the commune...WHO'S COMING WITH ME?!?!?!?

[aubreymcfate]

Anyone else think boog is being super douche? Should probably lynch him. We gangnam style board members want chill people. Not douchey mcdoucherson

i literalol'ed at that. thanks.

this tiff between bigred and boog is either genuine bickering or premeditated tension. i'm confused as to why bigred is angering boog so much... maybe that's just me.

If tlr was lynched for targeting wolves, I feel like that is soooooo conspicuous... would they really make such an obvious move?

apparently bigred was suspicious of pascal, as was tlr.

Out of the 3 inactives that were mentioned, 2 popped up and started playing

i believe bigred was one of the 2 that tlr was referencing there? Not sure if tlr was noting a suspicion here, but since he posted so little and was still lynched, small things count.

That's sort of contradictory "evidence," so to speak. tlr was lynched. the only people tlr made special note of were pascal, whom he requested be lynched, and 2 inactives that suddenly popped up... one of them being bigred.

hmm...



YES THE IMAGE WORKED SUCCESS

[BooG690]

i'm confused as to why bigred is angering boog so much... maybe that's just me.

It's not this one game that Bigred is angering me. It's the summation of all his games. I don't think I've ever seen him produce anything of quality and he somehow ALWAYS makes it to endgame. He plays the same dumb way as a villager or wolf which makes him almost impossible to read. With him giving nothing of quality and being SO much trouble at the end, he must go.

[OngBonga]

Yeah let's lynch the guy who hasn't posted yet, how awesome an idea is that?

Wuf is right, I would not have been happy to nom TLR this game. Wolves have cleared me lol.

Boog is right, bigred is fuseless.

In fact it feels like bigred has already matched his activity levels from last game, and surpassed his quality.

But I did laugh at the clown comment.

aubrey seems to have some idea what's going on.

Overall, it's a pretty obvious lynch pascal

[OngBonga]

Wuf could be a wolf actually. I mean he modded last game and has picked up some serious wolf tells. As a village we should listen to him until he gets nommed, and if he doesn't, we lynch him, then if he flips villager, lynch his targets. Easy game.

[bigred]

I AM THE MOST IMPORTANT PLAYER IN THIS GAME AND YOU ALL ARE FOOLS FOR NOT REALIZING THIS.

Testicles.

[bigred]

Let's talk more about Boog. dude moves to Korea! KOREA! If that's not wolfy I don't know what is.

[bigred]

So I was about to lynch gator and then I realized I already did! Talk about a content life! Guess I'll just sip on some lemonade.

[bigred]

And by lemonade I mean beer. And by beer I mean...more beer.

[wufwugy]

im putting boog back on my list. for several reasons

[DropTheBanana]

Let's talk more about Boog. dude moves to Korea! KOREA! If that's not wolfy I don't know what is.

I'm convinced

Lynch Boog

[rong]

Several thoughts:

1. Bigred is a complete waste of space. But worse than that his mass of crap can lead to us not considering him in the same bracket as the inactives, when in fact he is clearly within it.

2. So is DTB. His activity is extremely low, but worse still, look how quick he was to join in with this:

I'm convinced

Lynch Boog

posting without having to say anything at all. This kind of crap makes him effectively an unknown at all times as we never have enough to convict him.

3.Ong is not cleared!!!! Let me repeat that in capitals in case you miss it. ONGBONGA IS NOT CLEARED!!!!! You may feel you have some evidence toward his role, but fuck clearing him on the strength of that and I notice Ong was very quick to latch on to Wuf's statement. Don't like it at all.

[rong]

Boog is right, bigred is fuseless.

In fact it feels like bigred has already matched his activity levels from last game, and surpassed his quality.

But I did laugh at the clown comment.

aubrey seems to have some idea what's going on.

Overall, it's a pretty obvious lynch pascal

Given your comments on Bigred and mine above on DTB, how does Pascal become a better lynch than either of those guys?

[rong]

Wuf could be a wolf actually. I mean he modded last game and has picked up some serious wolf tells.

I agree with the above.

But not the rest.

As a village we should listen to him until he gets nommed, and if he doesn't, we lynch him, then if he flips villager, lynch his targets. Easy game.

Sure we should pay attention, but let's face it, his ego takes over too easily and distorts his view and also, given his experience, especially the recent modding, I'd be reluctant to potentially allow a wolf him to manipulate the village for too long.

[rong]

In fact, I hate the whole thing between Wuf and Ong.

Wuf says Ong is very unlikely to have made the TLR kill.
Ong latches on to this and calls himself cleared.
Ong says Wuf should be listened to.
Ong bolds someone who is in Wuf's list of likely wolves.

[rong]

Lynch DTB

For inactivity really, could switch to Bigred without trouble.

[Keith]

I'm sticking with Lynch boog for all the reasons I gave yesterday.

to a villager there was a 15% that fulksy was a special , to the wolves that chance increased to 18.75%. Given that fulksy hadn't logged in and couldn't know his role it was a benefit to the wolves to stay on the fulksy wagon and get the day done with rather than give fulksy time to appear and make some sort of defence. It wouldn't have made any difference in the end as fulksy never showed before the deadline so i would probably have switched to him at the end to save a modkill but I was willing to give him the chance to show up .

Boog was adamant that fulksy was always a better lynch than jyms just before jyms miraculously reappeared but previous to that he didn't care which.If jyms was a co wolf and didn't show up , he gets credit for pushing for an inactive lynch if jyms is lynched and shown to be a wolf and with fulksy he gets the increased chance of hitting a special.

I'm finding it interesting that he should now be targetting daven with his wolf coaching theory. Could well be true and boog knows that I'm likely to keep pressing for his lynch.Is he trying to give daven some cover here.

lynching boog can possibly give us some clues to jyms and davens role.

[BooG690]

You think I'm targeting daven? I said he caught my eye. He's hardly my target. I'll give you your jyms argument though. In my head, it made no sense to vote for jyms with fulksy and Bigred options. I pointed jyms out earlier in the game as an inactive but I would've probably never voted for him on day 1, again, given fulksy and Bigred were options. It was unfortunate timing for jyms first post and you can read into it what you may.

Either way, it's undoubtedly a mistake to let Bigred live another day and lynch me. I'll remain posting actual substance while Bigred will be posting his usual shit.

[Hoopy]

I'm on my phone right so can't post anything substantial, but the TLR kill means the wolves want to win more than have fun.

DTB and JV on the wolf list.

Be back on later.

[jackvance]

Bleh what a crappy start, our angel is already gone. I'm with wuf on this, after the game is done we should talk about how to handle inactives with special roles, because this just blows. But that aside, boog's behavior stands out a bit, but I don't think he'd play like this as a wolf, so most likely a villager. I've played with him in a wolf team before and he tries to be more subtle then.

DTB's lynch is strange, he latches on to a joke made by bigred. I don't remember exactly how he played in the past, looks a bit like uninterested villager, but it's hard to tell with him being so inactive.

@rong: I agree with his analysis on ong and wuf, it's not because wuf modded a game that he can soulread everyone now (although in the past he has had very keen insights, for this I regard him as a strong player), because bigred has modded many games so he should be the best WW player then if this were true. That's just faulty reasoning.

[Pascal]

looks like hoopy's a wolf and he doesnt like what tlr said

i think tlr dying means that ong isn't a wolf. i mean, if he is, goddamn he's a jackass because he ALWAYS noms tlr soonest chance he gets

these two posts don't make any sense together. so Hoopy wants TLR nommed because TLR thinks he's a wolf even though he knows it'll draw suspicion to him, but Ong wouldn't nom TLR because he knows that'll draw suspicion to him? i don't think Hoopy and Ong would think that differently.

I think Ong is enough of a troll for people to think on level 1 and to nom TLR is such an obv move it clears him by doing something he would obv do

[OngBonga]

Given your comments on Bigred and mine above on DTB, how does Pascal become a better lynch than either of those guys?

Because he's a wolf.

In fact, I hate the whole thing between Wuf and Ong.

Wuf says Ong is very unlikely to have made the TLR kill.
Ong latches on to this and calls himself cleared.
Ong says Wuf should be listened to.
Ong bolds someone who is in Wuf's list of likely wolves.

Does wuf really think I'm town because TLR got killed? Wuf has a good idea how I play wolf because he was with us in the den last game. It's not like he was simply observing, I prob spent more time chatting with wuf on skype than I did the wolves. He knows how I go about d1 kill. Last game I pressed for gator for rotation. My other d1 kills as wolf have been TLR and wuf. I think wolves should've nommed you dan, because then wuf would be all "waa waa ong is wolf", and the fact you didn't get nommed makes me think that wuf is not a wolf, because he would've done it so he can point the finger at me. Unless you're both wolves of course.

However, if I'm wolf I'm merely 1/4 of a team, so maybe I was against a TLR kill but got overruled. I was kinda joking when I said I was cleared. But then I don't think I say things like "I'm clear lol" when wolf, so I prob cleared myself lol.

3.Ong is not cleared!!!!

Haha yeah you're right. I'm just trying to fuck with wuf.

jv is suspicious as hell.

DTB's lynch is strange, he latches on to a joke made by bigred. I don't remember exactly how he played in the past, looks a bit like uninterested villager, but it's hard to tell with him being so inactive.

I've been wolf before with jv and banana. Man we owned that shit. jv knows banana lurks a little as wolf. We also completely dodged pointing the finger at each other. Banana's vote for boog is really lazy.

@rong: I agree with his analysis on ong and wuf, it's not because wuf modded a game that he can soulread everyone now (although in the past he has had very keen insights, for this I regard him as a strong player), because bigred has modded many games so he should be the best WW player then if this were true. That's just faulty reasoning.

And this... no offence intended, I like both wuf and bigred, but egos aside, wuf is better than bigred simply because he makes the effort. I doubt bigred pays a great deal of attention to the game when he mods, he's too busy looking at pics of kittens and drinking average beer. So yeah I'd give wuf's reads a little more credit than bigred's based on modding.

[jackvance]

And this... no offence intended, I like both wuf and bigred, but egos aside, wuf is better than bigred simply because he makes the effort. I doubt bigred pays a great deal of attention to the game when he mods, he's too busy looking at pics of kittens and drinking average beer. So yeah I'd give wuf's reads a little more credit than bigred's based on modding.

That was my point, it depends on the person, not so much whether they modded.

[jyms]

Monster Jam tonight Woot!! Nothing like taking an 8 year old to see monster trucks.

I got nothing right now but am probably siding with Wufdoggy right now. I did want him lynched a while ago but FTR fixed the sigs so it's smaller now and he's less annoying and his posts seem more readable.

[OngBonga]

That was my point, it depends on the person, not so much whether they modded.

Yes, but my point is that wuf will have improved his wolfhunting due to modding, he gets to see the sloppy mistakes wolves make and get away with. I'm pretty sure lolz is an expert special hunter, and thus an incredibly dangerous wolf. Modding certainly helps improve skills. Why do you think I'm so keen to run a game? I have an ego to match wuf, I wanna soulread bitches every bit as much as he does.

Still don't like your vague finger pointing at banana. Why would you think he's a disinterested villager? Why are you not immediately suspicious of him for his sloppy boog vote?

[OngBonga]

To add to my last post, banana doesn't do disinterested villager. He does active villager and lurky wolf.

[jackvance]

Still don't like your vague finger pointing at banana. Why would you think he's a disinterested villager? Why are you not immediately suspicious of him for his sloppy boog vote?

Don't get me wrong I could bold him (as well as some other people), because of his low content and vagueness, but I'm trying to look at both angles instead of jumping to instant conclusions. My immediate intuition to his post was that it was suspicious, same as many people probably, but these intuitions haven't always proven true, that is why I am being more careful in my judgments. (the opposite of how most people play, I know)

[rong]

Because he's a wolf.

Even if we knew he was a wolf with certainty, I'd still say lynching inactives would be better.

[OngBonga]

To be fair, I don't think banana's post screams wolf. It's just that it's far from villagery, so giving him "uninterested villager" status concerns me.

I think pascal screams wolf. I call him out for saying daven is wolfy while not actually taking in his posts, and his response is paranoia, he assumes I'm calling him wolf for doing something he did last game. That's not true. He then suggests I'm doing what I did last game, then votes for me. But of course, observant types would see that last game, during most of d1, I was villager, and replaced spidey as wolf when he got modkilled. So even if I'm doing what I did last game at the point pascal calls me out on it, this would be a town tell, not wolf tell.

If he's a villager, he's of no use to us. He's showing here that when someone points the finger at him, he'll respond with a revenge vote and bullshit reasoning. So either bad villager, or wolf trying to turn the table.

So dan, my vote for pascal is because I think he's a wolf, which I made clear yesterday. Nothing to do with wuf having him as a named suspect.

[Pascal]

What? Your post completely misrepresents everything I've said

[rong]

Ong, I didn't say wuf's suspicions had anything to do with your reasoning for lynching Pascal.

What I'm saying is as pascal continues to post, regardless of his role, we have more info to judge him with.

With DTB/bigred, in three days time if they're still around we'll still be none the wiser. Hence why either's a better lynch than pascal.

I understand there is some reasoning behind quite a few people's suspicions of pascal, I'm stating it is far from conclusive, more time allows us more info to help us judge and also allows us to remove people who will be practically impossible to judge later and who if villagers prob won't be involved enough to be that useful.

[OngBonga]

What? Your post completely misrepresents everything I've said

Well, explain why then. You did say daven was wolfy, and you also asked him if it was his first game. He already said it was, so you formed a wolf read on him without knowing what he's posted. Alarm bells are ringing before you even vote for me. You then say I'm doing what I did last game, claiming this is why I voted for you.

I missed one post, obv a wolf. Not a revenge lynch, it's the fact you say I'm doing what I did last game makes me wolfy when you're doing exactly the same thing you did last game

I didn't say you were doing what you did last game. I said you were a wolf for calling daven wolfy without knowing what he's posted. Plucking wolf reads out of thin air.

So, please tell me how I'm misrepping you.

Dan...

Ong bolds someone who is in Wuf's list of likely wolves.

This is what I'm referring to. I named pascal as wolf suspect yesterday, so wuf's ideas are entirely irrelevant.

But I understand why you want rid of bigred or banana. I feel bigred is the better lynch of these two, simply because we know the quality of participation to expect from him. Banana, I feel like he'll be easier to read later. I'm not going to cry if either of these two die today, but I have a reasonably strong read on pascal for this stage of the game, and I'm always preferring to lynch a wolf read than punish someone for being quiet. It's the weekend, so I'm not really up for lynching based on activity today.

[Keith]

http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2128406 where Pascal says

Had to stay up last night to wait for someone to come on Skype so ended up going at 11.30 instead of 11.

probably not the best thing to say when the wolves seem to have taken ages to make a decision.I'm sticking with boog lynch and think vig should target pascal tonight.

[OngBonga]

lol that actually has me thinking I'm wrong about pascal. That would be really sloppy if he's a wolf.

Hmmmm.....

[OngBonga]

Ok then, let's flip.

lynch XTR1000

Inactive, not very useful, and his chainsaw defence of pascal (defending him by attacking his attacker) means if he's wolf then probably so is pascal.

[Pascal]

Ong, I said what you were doing was the same as you did at the end of the last game when we were joking about it in wolf chat. Posting that you can't be doing the same thing as last game because D1 you didn't know you were a wolf is irrelevant, did you read my post?

Yeah I already said I was wrong with daven, I didn't read the posts properly and I'm sorry about that.

As for my thread, lol. It was a personal thing, nothing to do with the forum. I wouldn't stay up for 2 hours when I was shattered if it wasn't important.

[OngBonga]

Ong, I said what you were doing was the same as you did at the end of the last game

No you didn't. It might be what you meant, I can't know what your intentions are, but you didn't make this clear.

Yeah I already said I was wrong with daven, I didn't read the posts properly and I'm sorry about that.

You were wrong to point your finger at him without reading his posts, sure. In fairness, I've been guilty of this enough times as villager. But when called out on it, my reaction doesn't tend to be a revenge vote, it's acknowledgment.

But honestly, posting on another thread about waiting for a skype chat during a long ww night, I just can't see you being this sloppy if you're a wolf. I would imagine a wolf would start typing that and stop, thinking it might not be a great idea. A villager wouldn't even think about it because he's using skype for IRL friends. So I'm prepared to reassess my position on you here.

[aubreymcfate]

is anyone else suspicious that what might seem like a sloppy play is maybe a clever tactic intended to mislead us? or am i being a total Alex Jones here.

why wouldn't a villager think about saying something about skype outside of the game? it's not like they wouldn't be aware that it would look suspicious.

i don't wanna get too up pascal's butt about this because in all fairness this was outside of the game and maybe it's kind of inappropriate to rag on him for that, but still, if it was a ploy, it would be pretty clever... s'all i'm saying.

have other thoughts but will post later.

[OngBonga]

No offence intended, but I don't think pascal is a smart enough wolf to make this play. He'd be relying on someone else to point it out, and then hope someone points out this could be a town tell, not wolf tell. So maybe pascal, keith and myself are all wolves who dreamed this idea up in the den, but that would be a ballsy play for three wolves to put themselves in the spotlight to give one wolf villager cred.

And the fact I've just said all this hints heavily that I'm not a wolf with pascal and keith.

As for it being out of game thread, well it's on site and public, so it's fair game imo. If the mods disagree, I'm sure they'll ask us to not comment on posts outside of the game thread.

[aubreymcfate]

i dunnooooo man, the fact that you're informing me of the implications of what you're saying makes me wanna just think the opposite. :P

honestly though i'm inclined to agree with you about the pascal thing. but it's still on my radar.

general question: why is ong nomming tlr so suspicious? i feel like i'm missing something here. how would even know if it was ong who did the nomming? (i'm assuming nomming: night wolf kill)

[OngBonga]

There is no way to know who nommed TLR, we can only speculate. For your information, TLR is an excellent and well respected WW player, and so when he's a villager, he's high priority kill for any wolf team (and yes, nom = wolf night kill). But wuf is correct to assume I wouldn't have been in favour of this NK in this game. But maybe I got overruled, or maybe I went with it anyway, so I could say "I wouldn't have done that".

Bottom line is, anyone can be responsible for killing TLR. That's probably one reason why they killed him.

[aubreymcfate]

Gotcha. That was the sort of background info I figured I was missing. Thanks.

[OngBonga]

My other d1 kills as wolf have been TLR and wuf.

Actually I think I'm wrong here. I've killed rilla on n1 before, and I'm not sure I've actually killed TLR on n1 before, that was n2 last game. So I can kill TLR this game out of "rotation". Probably best I point this out before someone else does lol.

[wufwugy]

my wolf list is updated to

hoopy dtb boog jyms

hoopy - in his scant posts, he has accused people of being wolves without putting much into it. tlr noticed a peculiarity here, and i think he's right. nobody else seems to pick up on it, and boog even comes out not liking it and instead backing hoopy's idea (even though the critique of jv isn't that good). villager hoopy tends to post more observations and fewer accusations in early games

dtb - i dont like his posting style. i get a real strong wolf vibe from his frequency and content. also he's lynching boog to distance himself

boog - instead of being irked about the angel dying, he told me to shut up. instead of being irked that tlr was nom'd, he told me to shut up. he defended jyms quite a lot and has defended hoopy where he can. he is more active this game, and that is something i would expect of him if he landed wolf again because we said so many times about the last game that his main problem as a wolf is low post count. he would want to make this improvement. he has some consistencies like naming both fulksy and bigred, and going after bigred today, but to me those are in a way contrived consistencies. this shows his opinion didnt change at all over the night phase, and he'd rather get rid of bigred than do some wolf hunting

jyms - i believe he was without wifi when he said, but i think he's still a wolf. his posting style is different from the villager ways and similar to the wolf ways in a couple places, but more importantly, i think boog is a wolf, and if so, jyms is too. jyms recently said he agrees with me without really explaining why, and this is very weird since im all over the place (as usual). so what exactly is he doing here? it looks like he's not agreeing with me, he's just trying to buddy up.

[OngBonga]

I certainly share your views on hoopy and banana, especially banana. I'm yet to form any read on boog or jyms. I've been wolf with boog recently, and jyms I had the read on when he was wolf, so I'm not concerned by these two, I'm confident I can sniff them out if they're wolves. Right now I'm null on them both. I don't feel that boog's activity level is questionable. His activity revolves heavily around his work. The more free time he has, the more he'll post. His free time is entirely unrelated to his work commitments.

banana though, I really didn't like his vote today. Banana is not lazy when he's a villager. jv's response to it concerns me. If banana is a wolf, I feel jv is too, so I don't see your list here being flawless.

[OngBonga]

His free time is entirely unrelated to his work commitments.

lol, that should read his free time is unrelated to his game role. I'm stoned.

[OngBonga]

[b]lynch banana[/]

my XTR read relies on pascal being a wolf, and I'm no longer so sure about that.

[aubreymcfate]

the more i think about it, the more boog=wolf seems likely. he started off with the "lynch inactives" stuff immediately, which he knew would influence people, and definitely influence the noobz. since d1 seems to be confusing and hazy as it is, it's a good time to manipulate people who are otherwise unsure of what to do.

then, if jyms is a wolf, and does indeed have a history of being a valuable player, his inactivity could have been planned, an easy way for boog to question why players would choose to lynch him over others. or even if jyms isn't lying about the wifi, that could have just been incorporated into their strategy.

[OngBonga]

lynch banana

[wufwugy]

As for some of the others:

bigred is a transparent player who actually tries when he lands a wolf or special

i have a ton of reasons to think aubrey is a lock villager (like her calling the night kill/nom a lynch), but it is still possible shes on a team like bikes boog aubrey...

my reads on ong are not as reliable as they used to be because he's been polishing his play elsewhere. i do feel like he would be a dickhead if he nom'd tlr, and he's not going to be overruled that easily since he's dominant in wolf chat. to answer pascal's question, the two are not exactly mutually exclusive, but it is a good point

i have a hugely villager vibe from keith, but it has been so long since ive played with him.... somebody might wanna go back and check that one game where rilla pwned the whole team in the first couple days and see if the sorts of things keith said as a wolf there are similar to now. im a grunching hypocrite, so may not do it.

i feel like gizmo is a villager, but dont take my word on that

no opinion on others

[OngBonga]

aubrey is emerging as a coached wolf suspect.

[aubreymcfate]

omg i can't wait to read through this shit when i'm stoned later with my thc-inspired insights. weed>alcohol sry guys

[aubreymcfate]

ong - that's really flattering that you think i'm coached. that means i'm making sense. yay!

wugy knows i'm a lock villager bc he can read me like a book, lol.

[OngBonga]

omg i can't wait to read through this shit when i'm stoned later with my thc-inspired insights. weed>alcohol sry guys

Not sure if serious, or a sick burn.

[OngBonga]

ong - that's really flattering that you think i'm coached. that means i'm making sense. yay!

wugy knows i'm a lock villager bc he can read me like a book, lol.

I'm like this with any noob who makes sense. Ask gizmo and vinland. But I have reason to think you might be getting pointers from wolves. But I'm prepared to give wuf sway when it comes to you, it's just dangerous if you both happened to bink wolf roles. For now, my focus is on the much more suspect bananaman.

[aubreymcfate]

me and wuf being wolves together would be nasty for sure.

and i was serious about the weed thing, lol. it's 50/50 though. weed could either make me a prodigious first time player, or a nonsensical fool.

[bikes]

think bigred is std bigred drunk posting 90% of time. boog simply annoyed with multiple games in a row of bigred drunk posting. i think boog is a wasted lynch.

something doesnt sit right with jyms so lets lynch jyms