HT HU SNG HUD

[Savy]

So the format for the hyper HU SNGs on stars (and everywhere else I think) is 25bb starting stack and 2 minute blind increases.

Here is what I'm thinking for my HUD.

#Hands BB (for both villain and myself)

Then in two separate panels, one for Villains BTN, one for Villains SB.

Villains BTN
Limp | PFR
Limp-Call | Call 3bet
Limp-Fold | Fold 3bet
Limp-Raise | 4bet
Flop cbet | Fold to cbet raise
Turn cbet | Fold to turn cbet raise

Villains BB
Call | Fold | 3bet
Flop | Turn
c/f | c/f
c/c | c/c
c/r | c/r
donk | donk

Also going to try and make it so when I hover over the blinds it pops up with nash chart, but that may be a bit adventurous to start off with.

[donkbee]

That's a lot more info than I use currently, but that's just cuz I don't like a lot of clutter on my tables. If you're looking to trim down, you probably don't need to have donking stats. If you come across someone that donk bets, just make a note. Most people (fish and regs alike) don't donk much.

I also just use a "fold to cbet" stat instead of c/f c/c and c/r. If they tend to not fold to cbets, then I might expand and see what they're usually doing.

[Savy]

It's not really too cluttered as it is imo.

[donkbee]

Yeah I know some people have even more stats than that on their tables. I guess I'm just super picky :P

[Keith]

one thing i thought watching Imsavy play las night was that a lot of the stats never got to populate before the game ended . Whichj kinda leads to he point of if they aren't being used and hopefully moving up before you get big samples on individual players , is there any point having them on the hud.

[Savy]

one thing i thought watching Imsavy play las night was that a lot of the stats never got to populate before the game ended . Whichj kinda leads to he point of if they aren't being used and hopefully moving up before you get big samples on individual players , is there any point having them on the hud.

I don't think there is any harm them being there and then when you start to play regs at higher levels they are there.

[jyms]

For me, I have placed and removed tons of stats on my hud over the last few years. What I found finally helped me was only having the minimum of the preflop/3bet stats and I checked post flop when I got there. I slowly added a stat over a week or two when I found I was checking things in the pop ups a lot more than once or twice at a table. typically the Cbet stats.

But for this HU SNG games I have been playing I haven't even looked at my hud. Teh games last like 6 minutes and like 30-40 hands. I rarely play the same player more than 2 games in a night at the micros so I really think you're spending a lot of time on unnecessary brain space. I'm not sure how your going about constructing ranges for every stat you have in such a small amount of hands.

[jyms]

Here's a quote from the ebook you mentioned and I think it applies here


One of the most influential pieces of poker strategy I picked up in my career was written by Ed Miller, and was actually about full ring limit hold ‘em. In a thread on the twoplustwo forums, he pointed out that how meaningful your mistakes are is a function of the frequency of how often you get into that situation, and the magnitude of how much reduced your expectation is when making a suboptimal play. Multiplied together, those tell you how significant your mistake was. Therefore, the more rare the situation and the closer the decision, the less you should careabout the answer of what action you should have taken.

I think the same applies for stats. Focusing on a lot of numbers that may or may not mean anything instead of things that you can pick up on, like timing tells, bet sizing tells, player tendencies, and ranges in more frequent spots, will be better for your overall expectation than one street of one hand at sometime in some game. The best players spend time pouring over notes, and HH's to find a players weaknesses, and many don't even have a hud

[Keith]

since there are several of us playing these now anyone interested in doing group sweat sessions?.

[Savy]

Here's a quote from the ebook you mentioned and I think it applies here


One of the most influential pieces of poker strategy I picked up in my career was written by Ed Miller, and was actually about full ring limit hold ‘em. In a thread on the twoplustwo forums, he pointed out that how meaningful your mistakes are is a function of the frequency of how often you get into that situation, and the magnitude of how much reduced your expectation is when making a suboptimal play. Multiplied together, those tell you how significant your mistake was. Therefore, the more rare the situation and the closer the decision, the less you should careabout the answer of what action you should have taken.

I think the same applies for stats. Focusing on a lot of numbers that may or may not mean anything instead of things that you can pick up on, like timing tells, bet sizing tells, player tendencies, and ranges in more frequent spots, will be better for your overall expectation than one street of one hand at sometime in some game. The best players spend time pouring over notes, and HH's to find a players weaknesses, and many don't even have a hud

How much time do you think I spend looking at them stats? Most of them are completely pointless until I get a large enough sample size, which I almost never do. They are just there for when I need to check them.

@Keith, definitely up for a study group type thing.

[Keith]

spammer didn't exactly pick the highest footfall forum .

[Pascal]

what spammer?