Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
On a majority of flops, AK is just A-high.
True, but AK is at least ahead of unimproved Ax, Kx, Qx, Jx, etc. (and there should be plenty of these type of hands in a 43% vpip player's range). Plus AK always flops either top pair+ or two overcards. 87s often doesn't even have one overcard.

I do like Savy's point about a cbet on the flop being a ticket to see the river against passive players like this. That makes betting draws a lot better (since you can often see two cards for one price). So, yeah, I would cbet 87s if it flopped a draw. But most of the time it will miss the flop all together. At that point I have to either give up (since even unimproved Qxs hands are crushing me) or try to bluff an opponent who doesn't want to fold, which leaves me to wonder why I would want to play 87s against this opponent (OOP no less) in the first place. At least ATs has high card value when it misses the flop.