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50nl AQ TPTK facing flop raise and turn bet

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    Default 50nl AQ TPTK facing flop raise and turn bet

    villain is 18/14 opening 43 on the button
    Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
    BTN: $56.22 (112.4 bb)
    SB: $55.95 (111.9 bb)
    Hero (BB): $97.63 (195.3 bb)
    MP: $129.31 (258.6 bb)
    CO: $44.34 (88.7 bb)
    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q A
    2 folds, BTN raises to $1, SB folds, Hero raises to $3, BTN calls $2
    Flop: ($6.25) 2 3 Q (2 players)
    Hero bets $4.50, BTN raises to $12.47, Hero calls $7.97
    Turn: ($31.19) 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $15.34, Hero ???
    felt his range was weak with him min raising on the button . Possibly should have made raise pre $4.Thought he could have lots of Ax, suited connectors, mid pocket pairs in his range. Thought with his flop raise he could have been trying to push me off any hands where i missed the flop , possibly where he had draws giving him equity i.e flush draws , 56 A4s A5s etc
    Should I have shoved over on the flop? I didn't think so since his flush draws i was giving him roughly 50% equity and only hands i'm really crushing are KQ QT QJ. what to do on the turn , having shown weakness on the flop , couldn't see any point leading, but then again ...would bet folding $15 get him to fold his flush draws and gutshots but by then half an effective stack is in the middle and i'm pretty much committed. betting small lets him hit his draws cheaply or shove over.
    Last edited by Keith; 06-19-2013 at 06:06 AM.
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    There is money in the pot so if you have 50% vs a stack off range then you're fine. You don't have a lot of good options being oop so I'd just get it in on the flop. And yeah bigger pre.


  3. #3
    There's no folding this in a 3b pot.

    We own his nut FD's so just take the line that you think is most likely to win the most out of villain.

    If you think he will jam all FD's on flop (even hands like JThh etc), just 3b and get it in on flop. If you think he has a complete air ball, then I don't mind calling and c/c any river. If you think he raises Qx on flop but might slow down later if called, then I'd 3b flop in this instance too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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    Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
    BTN: $56.22 (112.4 bb)
    SB: $55.95 (111.9 bb)
    Hero (BB): $97.63 (195.3 bb)
    MP: $129.31 (258.6 bb)
    CO: $44.34 (88.7 bb)
    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q A
    2 folds, BTN raises to $1, SB folds, Hero raises to $3, BTN calls $2
    Flop: ($6.25) 2 3 Q (2 players)
    Hero bets $4.50, BTN raises to $12.47, Hero calls $7.97
    Turn: ($31.19) 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $15.34, Hero raises to $76, BTN calls $25.41 and is all-in
    River: ($112.69) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Results: $112.69 pot ($2.50 rake)
    Final Board: 2 3 Q 7 6
    BTN showed 7 A and won $110.19 ($53.97 net)
    Hero showed Q A and lost (-$56.22 net)


    so yeah , I got the money in with 75% equity and find it interesting that you both think its fine to get the money in on the flop. I'm still getting used to the increased aggression at 50 nl compared to the micros.
  5. #5
    It's a 3b-pot. Most players will 4b AA/KK pre. Not everyone will call 22/33 pre to a 3b. There are no two pairs on board. So what hands are you worried about?

    You 3b pretty small pre given you're OOP, I would 3b bigger ($3.5-$4). In this scenario, the SPR is much shallower than a single raised pots, so it's hard to let go of top pair hands.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  6. #6
    I reraise in the flop and play to stack him and you are oop. Your line is also good if the turn don´t complete some draw and you know he bets a big% of turns

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