Another odd river donk

[BorisTheSpider]

Another unknown

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $17.65 (176.5 bb)
SB: $18.19 (181.9 bb)
BB: $8.96 (89.6 bb)
UTG: $7.39 (73.9 bb)
Hero (MP): $16.35 (163.5 bb)
CO: $12.49 (124.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 2 2
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.15) 9 T T (2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, BTN calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.35) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($2.35) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.20

[Carroters]

I hate your flop line I'd just c/f not really sure what you're hoping will happen, you'll either get bluff raised, value raised or floated and be in a horrible turn spot. Really no way to do anything but cf profitably here readless OOP.

This isn't a donk, it's just a river bet after turn checks through. I'm calling because he surely has to have a non pair 26% of the time when turn checks through and he never folds flop with any of his range vs your line.

[BorisTheSpider]

Yeah I thought people might hate flop. I just bet because it's so unlikely he hits this, and I want him to fold missed overs since my hands is so vulnerable. That said, he'll have a lot of draws here, so yeah, the flop sucks.

[griffey24]

Flop is weird, but as played I'm probably calling pretty often on the river.

[abelardx]

Given the pot odds I think a call is OK but I prefer a c/f otf like Carroters said. IME this is often a big ace.

edit: If villain is really fishy and you haven't been out of line, this is often a big ace. If villain is a fish, and you've been raising a lot, preflop could be a lot of things, but then I'd expect him to make a move on the flop. If villain is tight, this could be AA.

I don't think the river is a bluff in any case. He'd have bluffed sooner. But he could be 'value-betting' a big ace. So I think calling is OK but folding is OK too.

[griffey24]

Yah leading flop is pretty lame, since you're often gonna induce bluff raises and have to fold anyhow.

[Cobra_1878]

Fold pre?

[BorisTheSpider]

Fold pre?

For a long time I folded most of my small PP pre from everywhere but the btn, I've changed my default ORs up just now so I'm going to see how I do opening them.

[griffey24]

Are ppl really folding pocket pairs? wow... I mean maaybe if someone on your left is rampant 3betting you, and maybe the lowest pairs UTG. But still...

[Pelion]

Yeah, I've heard this so much lately and I really don't get it. Easiest hands in the world to play and so much value in them at low stakes.

[BorisTheSpider]

Looking at my river range...

Open: 22+, A7s+, A5s, ATo+, KTs+, KQo, QTs+, J9s+, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, 65s, 54s

Cbet half pot: Probably my entire range

Check turn: JJ, 88, 7h7c, 7s7c, 7s7h, 66, 44-22, AcKc, AdKd, AsKs, AcQc, AdQd, AsQs, AcJc, AdJd, AsJs, Ac9c, Ad9d, Ac8c, Ad8d, As8s, Ac7c, As7s, Ac5c, Ad5d, As5s, AJo+, KcJc, KdJd, KsJs, 8h7h, 8c7c, 8s7s, 86s, 7h6h, 7c6c, 7s6s, 7c5c, 7s5s, 6c5c, 6d5d, 6s5s, 5c4c, 5d4d, 5s4s

River calling range:

Boats: 77 (3 combos, 2%)
Straights: 86s (3 combos, 3%)
Pairs: JJ, A9s, 88, 66, A5s, 54s, 65s, 75s, 76s, 87s, A7s, 44-22 (58 combos, 47%)
Ace High: Everything else pretty much, about 50% of my river range

So if I want to call this with out the top 1/3 of my range, I want to be calling with about about the top 2/3 of my pairs (that plus my boats and straights makes up 35%), which would be like: JJ, 88, 66, A9s, Ac7c, Ad7d, As7s, A5s, 87s, 75s+

A pair of sevens seems OK here, 2s seems like a pretty big adjustment - if I call with 2s, I'm calling with half my overall river range.

Given the turn action, I probably can't check a rivered boat or straight anyway, in which case, although it's a big adjustment, calling with 2s doesn't seem absolutely unreasonable, but readless I think it could be a fold. After this turn action though, I probably still call.

[ISillyDurrrAK]

If u didn't cbet turn u lost initiative, so there's no donk on the river. Besides that it's a fold with 4 overcards.

[caddie444]

I think cobra was saying fold pre to the 3bet

I'd rather c/c flop c/r turn than donk flop

After calling pre, just c/f flop

As played fold river