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    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance View Post
    Might as well out as I'm at L-2. I'm a mason together with flomo. We have our own little 2 person forum to chat. Here's the wikipedia:

    http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mason

    Going by that description the biggest use of my power is to confirm our villager statuses so here it is. Any sort of investigative power can look up either of us and confirm both.
    can flomo confirm this?
    having two masons would make sense for balance vs the wolf:village ratio we have in this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred View Post
    Can someone with more paying attention skills analyze Daven's play this game vs the last few? Wasn't he very active as a villager last game? If so, he's doing a great job of lying low.
    i have bursts of activity. Every game has been pretty different. Only constant thus far is that i've been targeted early every time i'm villager and called lock-villager until end-game every time i've been wolf. This time i'm not being targeted early, probably cos the village is sick of mis-lynching me early?
    dunno.
    guess it's time for the heat to come now. Whatevs. I'm vanilla.
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    i'm happy lynching any of wuf/aubrey/jyms right now.

    My early bold of rong was due to wanting to see reactions to his bold after his post calling out aubrey re wolves seeing village pms in an earlier game. There were some reactions, but nothing as interesting as i hoped.

    Yeah, Jyms seems wolf to me cos he always does
    wuf's post accusing luco with the ridiculous arguments about him using 'we' in a john lennon parody is enough for me:

    Lynch wuf

    aubrey seems sketchy re the pms and she seemed to get flustered briefly which isn't how i remember her playing as a villager.
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    timing of aubrey's jump to the jv wagon also screams out wolf trying to close the deal and get rid of a strong villager.
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    rescind wuf
    lynch jyms,
    i just looked through the jv wagon and his vote stands out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jyms View Post
    Ya this. Nice catch. Thinking that could be a massive slip up with two threads to follow as a wolf. I think if JV flips wolf we take Aubrey next

    ​Lynch JV
    ja, he found something that made him think that aubrey was a wolf, then voted to lynch jv.
    someone else pointed this out too, but no wagon started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    huh ???? logic seems all to cock there.You are saying that aubrey has made a mistake with two threads to follow so you should be lynching her rather than the person she was talking about .
    'twas keith who called out jyms' logic.

    pretty sure that if jyms flips wolf then keith is village.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Since everybody seems to be asking, I played like this in the world war game. I explained why I changed my style after the MAYHEM game before, but can repeat the bullet points again: when I post a lot, it turns into the wufshow, and everybody hates that, including me; when I'm more selective and precise with my posts, my reads are usually better; I've proven to myself what I want about my village game, so I don't have much more motivation to play the leader like I used to; the spewy style would be impossible for me to replicate as a wolf, and since I already have several ballsy village games on my belt, I'm more interested in playing in a way that I could wolf successfully; posting a bunch makes mulling back through the thread during later game days much harder, which really harms the village and is personally frustrating; and it's a helluva lot easier, less stressful, and mature to play in a tempered fashion.

    Anyways, this isn't exactly new. I played the same way in my last game. I've also modded like four or five games. You always learn things when you mod.
    This is very different from wufs typical early game. On one hand I'm suspect of the change in style but on the other hand I think the village would be better served if there was more quality content than garbage and short pointless posts. Looking back through the thread is a pain in the ass when you're trying to peg wolves.

    I rescinded on aubrey because she just never seems like a wolf to me. Maybe it's her personality, or maybe she's just good at looking harmless.

    Jyms is the opposite to me and he's on an aubrey wagon, so I'm siding with him being a wolf.

    The gabe vs keith thing is awesome to read and I'm leaning gabe as a wolf between the two because that guy is a close second to jyms wolfy style. I think it's rare that both are villagers.

    Just a few notes off the top of my head:

    Rong is a villager
    gator scares me because he's gator
    Daven is looking wolfy because he thinks aubs is a wolf and I think she's safe.
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    I'm finding myself contradicting myself. Sort of. rong bolded aubs and I think aubs is a lock villager and I said that rong is a villager. Is this a contradiction? Doesn't matter. I think they're both villagers and I don't understand the aubs hate by a lot of people early on. I bolded her for fun tbh.

    I don't always agree with bigred but when I do, he makes good points. /meme

    He said he preferred a luco lynch to a keith because at least villager keith is good at quality content. For this reason, I'm voting gabe in the gabe vs. keith fiasco.

    lynch gabe

    my next in line are jyms and daven.

    I may be choosing players to stick with early on as far as an alliance goes, just because I think they're so villagery this game. This includes: keith, rilla, and aubs.

    Also, ong, what's going on with chippy? The fact that he's not interested makes me think that position is villagery too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred View Post
    Oh, I'm ready to bold BID anyday as well. Nothing but fail coming from that side of the camp.
    Screw you, guy. It's Day 1. What did you expect in the first half of day 1? Accurate epic soul reads?
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    Am I the only one that still doesn't trust JV? Yeah he outed, but flomo has neither confirmed nor denied anything and JV is still skating by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance View Post
    Might as well out as I'm at L-2. I'm a mason together with flomo. We have our own little 2 person forum to chat. Here's the wikipedia:

    http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mason

    Going by that description the biggest use of my power is to confirm our villager statuses so here it is. Any sort of investigative power can look up either of us and confirm both.
    Ok then, we leave JV alone for today and see what happens tonight.

    I don't think wolf JV would out here given that the village always swings between people on day 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post
    Ok then, we leave JV alone for today and see what happens tonight.

    I don't think wolf JV would out here given that the village always swings between people on day 1.
    Actually forget that, flomo can confirm/deny JV's story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Back on Luco. His response to my post about him



    Really? This is why you lynch JV? Maybe if you want to make a dumb decision


    It is extremely unlikely that JV is lying, and it is extremely likely that the wolves liked the idea of killing him (so 1 or 2 are on it). I think we have to lynch somebody on that wagon now. There are only 1 or 2 who I think bolded him in reasonable pretenses. Among the others, I'm not entirely sure who I like lynching the most, but I think Luco looks the worst
    A wild wolfwugy appears!

    I put the first bold on JV. The guy wasn't exactly in danger of getting lynched at that point, just in danger of flying under the radar. When his wagon picked up steam I didn't switch, why would I? I hadn't seen anything in his two posts to warrant moving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred View Post
    @ the people who want to lynch luco or keith, I'd prefer a Luco lynch. I think Keith, regardless of a role, has a lot of information to give via his analysis. Villager keith is helpful. Wolf keith would have a lot of posts to give some leads.

    Also, the whole Luco chipeater defense seems like an easy way for a wolf to get some villager points. Not sure what to think if wuf's reaction to that post. Pretty silly wuf. I know he's been messing around with a new approach.
    So you'd prefer me over keith because, what? Keith would leave more crumbs if he was a wolf? I think that's what you're saying. You also say you'd prefer my lynch because villager keith is helpful - are you implying villager luco is unhelpful?

    With regards to chip, I was trying to encourage participation. His no-show makes me look misguided, not wolfy.
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    PLEASE CHECK YOUR VOTE IS CORRECT, I'VE JUST GOT OUT OF BED

    VC 1.6

    3- gabe L-6
    2 - jack, luco - L-7
    1 - aubrey, gator, hoopy, jyms, flomo, keith - L-8

    jack - luco, rilla
    gator - jack
    aubrey - rong
    gabe - jyms, keith, drew
    flomo - hoopy
    luco - wuf, flomo
    keith - gabe
    hoopy - bigred
    jyms - daven

    not voting - chippy

    deadline - 8am UK Wednesday (3am ET)
    23 hrs 16 mins from this post

    *edit - I'm missing someone's vote but I'm literally leaving now so I'll check later. A cookie for the first person to spot the mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    I'm finding myself contradicting myself. Sort of. rong bolded aubs and I think aubs is a lock villager and I said that rong is a villager. Is this a contradiction?
    Nope villagers can bold each other.
    I may be choosing players to stick with early on as far as an alliance goes, just because I think they're so villagery this game. This includes: keith, rilla, and aubs.
    I kinda agree with that list but wouldn't say any of them are lock villagers right now. Only jack and flomo are anything near confirmed.
    Also, ong, what's going on with chippy? The fact that he's not interested makes me think that position is villagery too.
    Chipeater hasn't posted on FTR for a while, doubt he knows his role.
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    Not lynching gabe day 1 guys, unless he starts howling.

    rescind flomo

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    Gabe seems very sane this game. I've played in games with him where he's highly cryptic but this game he's been clear worded.

    I don't know about Aubrey. I don't like that she basically tried to force me into tangling with her, first over Keith and then over Gator. She thinks I have a tendency to protect people I get village reads on and read people who will comb through every nook and cranny as villagers, so she started combing every nook and cranny I was paying attention to. No likey.

    Wuf says he's playing un-wufian and that fewer posts make his reads crisper. He offers this up with no reads to demonstrate and also no they don't. Each one of his posts going after daven or luco read flat. Luco is a pretty strong villager read for me, I don't have any lean on daven.

    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Back on Luco. His response to my post about him



    Really? This is why you lynch JV? Maybe if you want to make a dumb decision


    It is extremely unlikely that JV is lying, and it is extremely likely that the wolves liked the idea of killing him (so 1 or 2 are on it). I think we have to lynch somebody on that wagon now. There are only 1 or 2 who I think bolded him in reasonable pretenses. Among the others, I'm not entirely sure who I like lynching the most, but I think Luco looks the worst

    rescind daven lynch luco
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I like a Daven Luco Chippy team right now. Luco was just weirdly defensive of Chippy, and Daven instabolded him then instajumped from it. Usually these things aren't true, so I'm just trying to stick to one case at a time, but whatever
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Daven spewed hard last night. 3 worthless bolds in like 5 minutes. I think he did it on purpose. I didn't know what to make of it yesterday, and had just landed on Luco, so decided to let it go. Going back over the thread now, there isn't much to pin on anybody, but Daven's spew is just senseless and I think he would do it like this as a wolf. I still like a Luco lynch, but nobody else does. Can't say I'm a fan of a JV lynch

    rescind luco lynch daven
    This is some weaksauce analysis.

    Even posts where he's not putting a read out are weaksauce.

    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I do not like the JV wagon (up to 7 quickly on Day 1), and I think 1 or 2 wolves are on it
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    Rilla, BID and daven all look villager to me. I think Aubrey may be a red herring so I don't want to lynch her today.

    rescind jv, lynch wufwugy
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance View Post
    Also I can pretty much confirm myself as a villager by outing my role, but I had hoped I didn't have to do that, or at least not this fast.
    15minutes later
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I do not like the JV wagon (up to 7 quickly on Day 1), and I think 1 or 2 wolves are on it
    why is wuf so pro JV once he says that he is going to out his role. JV had not disputed or attempted to explain the evidence against him despite two posts after the wagon was underway. wuf is nailing his colours to the JV is a villager mast without much reason almost as if he knew that JV was a villager.This was before JV had outted his actual role.


    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    Am I the only one that still doesn't trust JV? Yeah he outed, but flomo has neither confirmed nor denied anything and JV is still skating by.
    Quote Originally Posted by flomo View Post
    I don't get the JV train.
    flomo has given some indirect confirmation with this post before JV outed and i'm guessing that JV had to confer with flomo before outting flomo as well. However flomo has posted since the actual outting and didn't confirm or deny
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    I figured out two wolves. Notice the title says "werewolf bitches" and not "werewolf, bitches". Clearly it's a female themed werewolf team. Aubrey and rilla are locks. Who else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred View Post
    I figured out two wolves. Notice the title says "werewolf bitches" and not "werewolf, bitches". Clearly it's a female themed werewolf team. Aubrey and rilla are locks. Who else?
    All Gingers are bitches
    Bigred is a Ginger
    Therefore Bigred is a bitch
    Found another one.
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    Sheet guys, he figured us bitches out! Run, wuf! He doesn't know you're the last bitch. The too many words bitch.
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    It's weird that luco and rilla have bolds on Jack still...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred View Post
    It's weird that luco and rilla have bolds on Jack still...
    Incoming VC proving you wrong
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    Wolf not paying attention?
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    VC 1.7 or whatever

    3 - gabe
    2 - luco, jyms, wuf
    1 - hoopy, keith, aubrey, gator


    hoopy - bigred
    luco - wuf, flomo
    gabe - drew, keith, jyms
    keith - gabe
    jyms - hoopy, daven
    wuf - luco, rilla
    aubrey - rong
    gator - jack

    not voting - chippy, gator, aubrey

    Deadline Wednesday 8am UK (3am ET)
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    Last VC was wrong because I rushed it this morning, this VC is correct, I have reread the thread to ensure all votes have been noted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post

    I don't know about Aubrey. I don't like that she basically tried to force me into tangling with her, first over Keith and then over Gator. She thinks I have a tendency to protect people I get village reads on and read people who will comb through every nook and cranny as villagers, so she started combing every nook and cranny I was paying attention to. No likey.

    Sorry Rilla, there's just something about you that makes me wanna roll my sleeves up and brawl

    anyways in all seriousness, I didn't target you so that you would protect me, if that's what you were implying. Your posts contained more fodder for suspicion than anyone else's, that's all. I'll admit, I impute much more deviousness to your posts than I might someone else. I think a big part of it is me projecting too. If I see signs of what I would do as a wolf (or at least what I would consider doing), I'll be more suspicious. Naturally.


    I also think it's a little weird that Luco would still be suspicious of JV. Didn't Flomo make a post since JV's outing? Wouldn't he have already said something?

    more to come...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    VC 1.7 or whatever

    3 - gabe
    2 - luco, jyms, wuf
    1 - hoopy, keith, aubrey, gator


    hoopy - bigred
    luco - wuf, flomo
    gabe - drew, gabe, jyms
    keith - gabe
    jyms - hoopy, daven
    wuf - luco, rilla
    aubrey - rong
    gator - jack

    not voting - chippy, gator, aubrey

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    lol ffs I'm gonna have to go through them all AGAIN
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    Fixed, it was a simple error, gabe and keith are voting each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Fixed, it was a simple error, gabe and keith are voting each other.
    Thanks for mentioning this.

    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    All Gingers are bitches
    Bigred is a Ginger
    Therefore Bigred is a bitch
    Found another one.
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    We need to consolidate. Lynching Gabe d1 sounds awful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    Wolf not paying attention?
    Paying attention to ongs incorrect vote counts! But that's why I said it was weird.
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    i have 3 votes for me : Drew, Keith and jyms. I have a good feeling people won't pile on to that wagon...

    jyms has never voted for me early, which makes me think he is actually suspicious of me, which he maybe would never do as a wolf

    no one seems eager to roll on crazy Keith so rescind and lynch luco


    rong / hoopy / bigred haven't left much info the village can use in the coming days
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    why did people jump on me? my logic was clear: the jackvance wagon took off and we can be quite sure he's not a wolf. the wagon has wolves. I think I posted a clear reason to kill him which I believe made some wolves jump on my coat tails
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I like a Daven Luco Chippy team right now. Luco was just weirdly defensive of Chippy, and Daven instabolded him then instajumped from it. Usually these things aren't true, so I'm just trying to stick to one case at a time, but whatever
    I don't agree with this at all. That team is in my village camp.

    While on the shitter, I started thinking about how you are playing so differently this game, and I don't remember playing a game where you were a wolf. This is the strongest read I have on someone on Day 1 so...
    rescind
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    why did people jump on me?
    Let's be frank.

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    12 hour extension

    QT is down and as such I'm granting an extra 12 hours, deadline is now 8pm Wednesday UK (3pm ET).
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred View Post
    I think I like an Aubrey lynch the most from that list with Luco right behind. I don't buy Aubrey's early PM questions.
    Thing is most of the suspicion about the PM's question was linked to JV who's now a confirmed villager. Also she's top of the post count which is unusual. I'm not seeing any reason to get rid of her right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post
    Thing is most of the suspicion about the PM's question was linked to JV who's now a confirmed villager. Also she's top of the post count which is unusual. I'm not seeing any reason to get rid of her right now.
    I don't see why AUbrey can't be a wolf just because JV isn't (assuming that he isn't)
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    rescind jyms
    lynch Gator

    He was on the JV wagon and to coin a wuf phrase is the GOATwolf, can't really trust him until seered or dead. If we let him get to endgame he'll probably end up pwning the village again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    I don't see why AUbrey can't be a wolf just because JV isn't (assuming that he isn't)
    Yeah I mean I guess it's possible she decided to ask about PM's already knowing the answer but in my experience wolves haven't really done that much. More often they speculate about various game mechanics that are quite obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post
    rescind jyms
    lynch Gator

    He was on the JV wagon and to coin a wuf phrase is the GOATwolf, can't really trust him until seered or dead. If we let him get to endgame he'll probably end up pwning the village again.
    I have also pwnd the wolves in recent games so the best choice is to seer me and see that I am a villager.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    i have 3 votes for me : Drew, Keith and jyms. I have a good feeling people won't pile on to that wagon...

    jyms has never voted for me early, which makes me think he is actually suspicious of me, which he maybe would never do as a wolf

    no one seems eager to roll on crazy Keith so rescind and lynch luco


    rong / hoopy / bigred haven't left much info the village can use in the coming days
    I think the village are going to be reluctant to lynch you today but Luco ?? wtf.... he's observing and picked up Aubrey with her JV comment. I prefer a jyms lynch . If any vote on JV's wagon was opportunistic it was his when he said that Aubrey had made a mistake because she was reading two threads but then lynching the person(JV) that she was talking about.
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    keith and daven need avatars to make their posts stand out more
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    not really stand out better but have them associated with a specific player, better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    why did people jump on me? my logic was clear: the jackvance wagon took off and we can be quite sure he's not a wolf. the wagon has wolves. I think I posted a clear reason to kill him which I believe made some wolves jump on my coat tails
    I'm also a bit suspicious of you gabe, there is something a bit different about your style now from before, it's not that anything is wolfy just different, which can potentially be wolfy.

    But gabe has too great of a track record in finding wolves lately that's too much of a mislynch if he's a villager so I'm not bolding him this early into the game. Rilla's way of thinking is pretty close to my own and I only see villagerness in what he is saying so there is that. Luco is acting a but perculiar, he seems to be slinging suspicions left and right to see what sticks, not particularly wolfy or anything just noted. Aubrey seems equally agitated.

    If I employ the strategy of looking for wolves in people that are flying under the radar I get: gator, hoopy, BID, wuf, jyms and rong. What I can say there is that I haven't seen rong or jyms do anything to convince me either way. Sticking with my Gator vote for the moment.
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    Oh I forgot to mention Daven in that list. I'll need to reread and see what he had to say.
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    Aubrey stands out the most to me. She seemed to revert to panic Aubrey when the heat was on her and I can't get over the feeling that she is trying too hard to "blend in".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    I think the village are going to be reluctant to lynch you today but Luco ?? wtf.... he's observing and picked up Aubrey with her JV comment. I prefer a jyms lynch . If any vote on JV's wagon was opportunistic it was his when he said that Aubrey had made a mistake because she was reading two threads but then lynching the person(JV) that she was talking about.
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    Agree with the Jyms sentiment. But I'm not giving Luc any villager points, he did exactly that as a wolf before, ie picking up on a comment someone made that made me think he must be a villager and it turned out he wasn't.
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    Any news on the benny/chippy situation?
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    I feel like every game where me and gator are both villagers, he suspects me. Plus I feel like his read of me is genuine based on us being wolves together... it just doesn't feel contrived. I can definitely see why he thinks that. So for now, gator is in my villager camp. I think if he was a wolf he wouldn't bother with me.
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    Some thoughts, which are quite useless at this moment in time but will be the foundation for later thought:

    Rilla: seems like he's trying to be rilla but lacking something. Nothing lynchworthy though.
    Wuf: not wuflike at all. Has given his reasons. I almost think he is more likely to be a villager than a wolf given his style change. If he finally flipped wolf would he want to all of a sudden change style? Surely he'd want to win the game wuf style.
    JV: Never understood the bw in the first place. He was quiet but I never found him wolfy. Pretty sure he's a villager given his claim, either that or both he and flomo are wolves but that seems a tad outrageous.
    Daven: normal, maybe, but maybe not, dunno there.

    Jyms and Aubrey seem the best options for reasons given by me (in the Aubrey case) and others in the Jyms case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    Gabe seems very sane this game. I've played in games with him where he's highly cryptic but this game he's been clear worded.

    I don't know about Aubrey. I don't like that she basically tried to force me into tangling with her, first over Keith and then over Gator. She thinks I have a tendency to protect people I get village reads on and read people who will comb through every nook and cranny as villagers, so she started combing every nook and cranny I was paying attention to. No likey.

    Wuf says he's playing un-wufian and that fewer posts make his reads crisper. He offers this up with no reads to demonstrate and also no they don't. Each one of his posts going after daven or luco read flat. Luco is a pretty strong villager read for me, I don't have any lean on daven.







    This is some weaksauce analysis.

    Even posts where he's not putting a read out are weaksauce.
    Do you mean to wolf so hard? I mean, I'm not sure if you are wolfing, but you should know better than to claim that my point about JV is weaksauce. On what planet does JV hit 7 quickly on Day 1 with 4 wolves playing while he's also a wolf? None

    How in the world is Luco a strong village read for you? He hasn't done annnnyything that possibly could be strong villager. Almost all of his posts have been wrong. He bolded JV for literally no reason (his words) then he says that he still doesn't trust JV after JV outed in a way that he's obviously not lying. How does Luco go from having no reason to lynch JV to having all the reason in the world to stay on JV?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    JV: Never understood the bw in the first place. He was quiet but I never found him wolfy. Pretty sure he's a villager given his claim, either that or both he and flomo are wolves but that seems a tad outrageous.
    .
    Wow. Earlier you posted this

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    Nice!
    in response to this

    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    reviewing JV's posts





    aubrey quoted the above and said



    but remember that rong has said



    more importantly though he said



    looking at the results from the game that rong modded.


    So JV was a wolf with aubrey in the game where rong says that he showed the wolves the town pm. so why did JV base the first quoted post on the premise that she probably didn't know about the wolves knowing town pms and discussion about it.
    JV is obviously not telling the truth here so

    rescind

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    Then posted this

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    Half the village is on it.
    in response to this

    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I do not like the JV wagon (up to 7 quickly on Day 1), and I think 1 or 2 wolves are on it
    And you never were on the JV wagon. I noticed yesterday how strange it was that you talked confidently like JV was a wolf yet never bolded him. And now you're saying you never thought he was a wolf in the first place

    What are you doing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    then he says that he still doesn't trust JV after JV outed in a way that he's obviously not lying. How does Luco go from having no reason to lynch JV to having all the reason in the world to stay on JV?
    I really, really want to lynch Luco for this alone. That stood out the most to me.

    However, luco also did a random "hi jv, lynch jv" after JV's first post, and that just doesn't strike me as wolfy. It draws unnecessary attention and it's not some kind of masterstroke of FPS or anything.


    As for jyms, this one thing is really bothering me:

    Quote Originally Posted by jyms View Post
    This isn't the standard gabe throwing out ideas and soul reading players posts, this is gabe leading the village down a path. It's not right and it's not comfortable.

    Rescind JV lynch gabe

    What he's responding to is basically gabe pointing out the bandwagon that formed around JV and saying that we should examine it since there's def wolves there. This is literally ww 101 - who here hasn't said something to this effect? This just seemed like such a disingenuous observation on jyms's part.



    I'm torn between jyms and luco.


    Also, Daven says I don't get flustered as a villager... um... I've gotten inordinately flustered over this game every time I play it, and I'm very open about it, so that's just downright false.
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    Jyms' point about Gabe is somewhat accurate though. Gabe isn't the easiest thing to tack down, but there is something to say for it looking like Gabe is doing manipulation instead of reading
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    hmm ok. I'll take your word for it.

    I really like your post about Rong btw but the only thing stopping me from being convinced is that he had such a hard on for my lynch, and he did bold me, so that might have eclipsed the stuff he said about JV. I'm looking over his posts now to see though..
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    So many players wolfing hard right now. I've been doing my best to keep the confusion as low as possible so we can organize ourselves on the most probable wolves, but this is getting nuts.

    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    Aubrey is definitely a villager here. The last time she and I played together we were both wolves and I got a good feel for her posting style as a wolf. This is completely different. Less reactionary and more thought out.
    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    Aubrey stands out the most to me. She seemed to revert to panic Aubrey when the heat was on her and I can't get over the feeling that she is trying too hard to "blend in".

    lynch Aubrey
    Gator said the former a couple days ago and the latter today. What?

    I'm not sure I notice this "reactionary" change that Gator claims didn't exist at first but does now

    Regardless, I have learned that villagers inadvertently say more wolfy things overall than wolves do. Luco is still the better lynch IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Wow. Earlier you posted this



    in response to this



    Then posted this



    in response to this



    And you never were on the JV wagon. I noticed yesterday how strange it was that you talked confidently like JV was a wolf yet never bolded him. And now you're saying you never thought he was a wolf in the first place

    What are you doing?
    JV was on 5 votes when Keith came out with the comment to which I replied nice. And it as a nice catch. But I never switched because I wasn't sold on him being a wolf.

    But anyway, the bolded part above. Give me one example of this. You just made that shit up dude. But what's worse, look at your language.

    "I noticed yesterday......."

    No you didn't, because it never happened. You're lying wolf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    JV was on 5 votes when Keith came out with the comment to which I replied nice. And it as a nice catch. But I never switched because I wasn't sold on him being a wolf.

    But anyway, the bolded part above. Give me one example of this. You just made that shit up dude. But what's worse, look at your language.

    "I noticed yesterday......."

    No you didn't, because it never happened. You're lying wolf.
    Your post #194 is strong implication that you thought JV was a wolf. At the time, I thought you were on the JV wagon because of how much it seemed you liked the JV wagon despite how strange it was. When I went back and checked, I noticed you were not on the wagon, so it seemed extra strange to me that you acted like it was a good wagon but never got on it
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    Ok yeah wug, that Rong discrepancy is a bit weird. He didn't go too hard after JV, but saying he never understood it in the first place does not sound sincere.

    Also rong, your name is so fucking annoying to ctrl+find because people are constantly using the word "strong" around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    JV was on 5 votes when Keith came out with the comment to which I replied nice. And it as a nice catch. But I never switched because I wasn't sold on him being a wolf.

    But anyway, the bolded part above. Give me one example of this. You just made that shit up dude. But what's worse, look at your language.

    "I noticed yesterday......."

    No you didn't, because it never happened. You're lying wolf.
    You're right, you never talked about JV being a wolf confidently.

    But why did you say you "never understood" the jv lynch?
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    No it isn't. That's in response to you saying at least one or two wolves are in the jv wagon and me pointing out that your comment is dumb as half the village make up the pool of players you were referring to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    No it isn't. That's in response to you saying at least one or two wolves are in the jv wagon and me pointing out that your comment is dumb as half the village make up the pool of players you were referring to.
    That makes sense. It was weirdly phrased. There are four wolves and by the looks of the JV wagon, a probable two of the seven players are wolves. When you said "half the village" it sounded like you meant villagers, not players, and you were endorsing the wagon
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    Quote Originally Posted by aubreymcfate View Post
    You're right, you never talked about JV being a wolf confidently.

    But why did you say you "never understood" the jv lynch?
    It reached 5 before Keith's point that I said nice to. That was the first decent bit of evidence I had seen.
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    Wait scratch my post about Gator. This post was in between those two and explains them

    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    These start looking like "panic aubrey" so I am not 100% sure of my read now.
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    In the hotel, got my internet up and running on the laptop. I will catch up in the next hour or so but I ain't getting off gabe unless someone posted something good on this page.
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    VC 1.8

    3- luco, wuf
    2 - gator, jyms, aubrey
    1 - gabe, hoopy

    (not sure who's in the lead, I will check if it's still a tie as deadline nears)


    hoopy - bigred
    luco - wuf, flomo, gabe
    gabe - jyms
    jyms - daven, keith
    wuf - luco, rilla, drew
    aubrey - rong, gator
    gator - jack, hoopy

    not voting - chippy, aubrey

    Deadline Wednesday 8pm UK (3pm ET) - 19 hrs 36 mins
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    Any news on the benny/chippy situation?
    Chippy has until the original deadline, so if he hasn't posted by 8am, as stipulated in his warning pm, benny will replace him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    So many players wolfing hard right now. I've been doing my best to keep the confusion as low as possible so we can organize ourselves on the most probable wolves, but this is getting nuts.





    Gator said the former a couple days ago and the latter today. What?

    I'm not sure I notice this "reactionary" change that Gator claims didn't exist at first but does now

    Regardless, I have learned that villagers inadvertently say more wolfy things overall than wolves do. Luco is still the better lynch IMO
    If you want the full context and thought change you should have included this post between those two.

    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    These start looking like "panic aubrey" so I am not 100% sure of my read now.
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