Werewolf bitches!

[BennyLaRue]

I don't get shooting rong. Was a pure gamble we learn nothing from, unless there's some chain of logic I'm not getting.

Hoopy has been suspicious ever since his appearing-sincere-but-insincere "Benny is EV for the village" post. What an Eddie Haskell.

Hopefully we have a seer and hopefully dude ran good. Daven, if you're a villager, you'll contribute.

[jackvance]

You mean hoopy votes, right?

Yeah sorry I meant hoopy.

let me make sure I understand what you are saying. I am a wolf this game because I was a wolf in previous games?

No I mean your track record this game, the way none of your reasoning have felt all that sincere and the fact that we're down to a village of 11 with 4 wolves and me, flomo, benny, hoopy and luco are villagers so that leaves:

GatorJH, bigred (these too have been acting like buddies, quite peculiar no?), BankItDrew, daven, Keith, gabe, flomo.

[Keith]

Yeah sorry I meant hoopy.


No I mean your track record this game, the way none of your reasoning have felt all that sincere and the fact that we're down to a village of 11 with 4 wolves and me, flomo, benny, hoopy and luco are villagers so that leaves:

GatorJH, bigred (these too have been acting like buddies, quite peculiar no?), BankItDrew, daven, Keith, gabe,flomo.

I thought you said flomo was a mason with you so why is he in both your villager and potential wolf list?

[OngBonga]

VC 3.1

2 - hoopy, daven - L-4

hoopy - keith, bigred
daven - jack, luco

6 to lynch

Deadline Sunday 8pm UK, 3pm ET

[daven]

No way daven is afk for this long as a villager.

wrong

[daven]

here's what i think (list below)... I will take a close look at the bigred wagon growth and die-down later but there should be some info there.
Luco is still looking a bit suss, he's been close on two days now, but both days his wagon has stalled.

bitches -

bigred - wolf
bankitdrew - no idea
hoopy - query either
luco - query either
jack - mason/villager
gabe - wolf
keith - villager
daven - villager
flomo - mason/villager
benny - villager
gator - wolf

dead bitches -

jyms - vanilla - lynched d1
wuf - angel - nommed n1
aubrey - vanilla - lynched d2
rong - vanilla - shot n2
rilla - vig - nommed n2

[daven]

unfortunately, i also thought jyms vs wuf was a great day 1 idea, and i liked the idea of a rong or aubrey lynch yesterday.
this game is messing with my head.

[Hoopy]

Hoopy has been suspicious ever since his appearing-sincere-but-insincere "Benny is EV for the village" post. What an Eddie Haskell.

How was that post insincere? And I had to look up Eddie Haskell to know what it meant.

[Hoopy]

it's a shame wuf protected jv over himself. FPS.

How do you know he did that?

first we lynch rong. When he flips wolf we lynch aubrey.

Hmmm don't know that a wolf says this when both are villagers.

[Hoopy]

Gabe has been quieter than usual. Any soul reads for us?

I'm thinking the wolf team is comprised of daven/Gator/bigred/?

[gabe]

I don't get shooting rong. Was a pure gamble we learn nothing from, unless there's some chain of logic I'm not getting.

seems like complete spew to me. hard not to spew when you get vig though

Yeah sorry I meant hoopy.


No I mean your track record this game, the way none of your reasoning have felt all that sincere and the fact that we're down to a village of 11 with 4 wolves and me, flomo, benny, hoopy and luco are villagers so that leaves:

GatorJH, bigred (these too have been acting like buddies, quite peculiar no?), BankItDrew, daven, Keith, gabe, flomo.

weird you mentioned flomo twice....wtf...? if JV and flomo are tricking us then we are 0% to win, but maybe this slip could foil their plans

although i do find myself agreeing with jackvance on the stuff he says. i think we just have to avoid flomo/jv

[gabe]

daven and luco both narrowly missed getting lynched. luco is probably a villager but its spooky when someone survives a coinflip to get lynch and then no one else touches them.

gator and bigred both need to get lynched or looked up

[gabe]

daven and bigred are leading candidates. gator keith hoopy are all tier 2 imo

[BankItDrew]

The village has sucked at lynching wolves in the last couple of games. I think putting names in an RNG would have a better result.

[BankItDrew]

I did an RNG on the entire player list remaining and I came out on top. Screw that plan.

[gabe]

The village has sucked at lynching wolves in the last couple of games. I think putting names in an RNG would have a better result.

or let jackvance call the shots

[BankItDrew]

I think that's a solid plan.

JV decides who is next to go.

[Luco]

I think that's a solid plan.

JV decides who is next to go.

That would be gator or daven then.

[Luco]

JV why do you think Benny is a villager? Don't say because chip. You said he has a super sick wolf game but you now have him in your villager camp, what's the reason?

[Luco]

It also occurs to me that one benefit of being masons is that you two could vote together and weaken the wolves influence, but to date you haven't done this.

[Luco]

Looking at how the voting went down yesterday I think it's highly likely that daven is a wolf. We need to press forward with his lynch and go from there.

[jackvance]

Daven is the best bet for today he's almost always a wolf here. HE's barely even trying to pretend to be a villager. I assume flomo will also vote daven, daven is among his top suspects too and flomo said he was gonna reread the thread to see what he could come up with.

In any case we can still afford one mislynch, but it's looking dire. We still should have a live seer out there that has the potential to change things around. The wolves have clearly been special hunting with a decent amount of success, we lost the vig and angel already.

[bigred]

It also occurs to me that one benefit of being masons is that you two could vote together and weaken the wolves influence, but to date you haven't done this.

Assuming they are masons...anyone else starting to wonder the validity of the claim? I think it's less than 5% chance but still...

I'm ok with switching to Daven. In my mind, a lynch for Daven is also a lynch for Hoopy.

[jackvance]

i messed up my wolf list yesterday when I posted as I had to rush to go babysit my brother's kids. Here's my list of wolf suspects at this time:

Wolves:
daven
gator

Suspects:
bigred
bankitdrew
gabe: he's playing a bit different but content-wise not that wolfy
keith: I have no idea what a Keith wolf would be like though tbh//

I take into account that there could still be a wolf in my villager camp (except for flomo ofc) but it's not that important now, we need to find a wolf now. That tends to make things clearer and the seer is still alive.

[Hoopy]

i messed up my wolf list yesterday when I posted as I had to rush to go babysit my brother's kids. Here's my list of wolf suspects at this time:

Wolves:
daven
gator

Suspects:
bigred
bankitdrew
gabe: he's playing a bit different but content-wise not that wolfy
keith: I have no idea what a Keith wolf would be like though tbh//

I take into account that there could still be a wolf in my villager camp (except for flomo ofc) but it's not that important now, we need to find a wolf now. That tends to make things clearer and the seer is still alive.

I agree that daven and Gator are our best chances for wolves today.

lynch daven

[GatorJH]

Assuming they are masons...anyone else starting to wonder the validity of the claim? I think it's less than 5% chance but still...

I think it is more like 0.005% chance they aren't Masons. If you think about it from a wolf perspective there is soooo much that could go wrong with that play that it makes it too high variance to pull out on any Day 1.

[GatorJH]

jv, I am not sure why you think I have a greater chance of being a wolf than someone like Bigred or Gabe. Their playing styles are different enough this game, imo, to make them wolves more often than I am a wolf.

I get that I have had some recent success as a wolf, but with where we are in this game there should be a much bigger argument than that and my fear is too many people are jumping on the "yep, it's Daven then Gator" theory and not providing their own thoughts on why they think I am a wolf.

[Hoopy]

jv, I am not sure why you think I have a greater chance of being a wolf than someone like Bigred or Gabe. Their playing styles are different enough this game, imo, to make them wolves more often than I am a wolf.

I get that I have had some recent success as a wolf, but with where we are in this game there should be a much bigger argument than that and my fear is too many people are jumping on the "yep, it's Daven then Gator" theory and not providing their own thoughts on why they think I am a wolf.

What do you think of daven?

[GatorJH]

What do you think of daven?

he hasn't stood out to me as much as most others so nothing yet. I am looking over his posts now.

[Hoopy]

I like the idea of JV/flomo picking 2 people and running wagons on them today. The more we spread out the easier it is for the wolves to slip by.

Just to remind everyone that Luco and daven can't both be wolves due to Luco's last minute switch yesterday.

[daven]

Daven is the best bet for today he's almost always a wolf here. HE's barely even trying to pretend to be a villager. I assume flomo will also vote daven, daven is among his top suspects too and flomo said he was gonna reread the thread to see what he could come up with.
.

i've been super-busy. I'm villager. I wouldn't be afk like this as a wolf without good reason - the time i was disappearing as a wolf you can read the wolf chat to confirm the reasons why.

I think we've got to go with jv and flomo as masons. Assuming the seer has made a couple of lookups then i'm sure they will become clear over the next day or two. It's really hard to tell what's going on given that we're yet to tag a wolf - villager vs villager wagons haven't been useful on that front. The wagons that have started and gained some momentum have been mine, bigred's, and luco's.

I'm vanilla villager and i can see how i look suspicious => should make sure to consolidate on two wagons today, it's not great for the village if i'm one of them, but it's probably the best route given that people are going to think i'm a good lynch until i'm gone. Not sure who best to go with, bigred or gabe are the two that jump out to me. Gabe hasn't been active (second lowest in post count), wasn't on one of the two wagons yesterday, and he was jyms' day 1 soulread.

Lynch Gabe

[daven]

I like the idea of JV/flomo picking 2 people and running wagons on them today

we definitely need to try and get consolidated at day end today. Not sure if identifying the players to be targeted so early in the day is beneficial to the village = if they get it wrong early then we end up with a day where the wolves can do anything/nothing. Better to let the village and wolves duke it out and for JV/flomo to make the decisions on which wagons to consolidate to with 24hrs left or something.

Just to remind everyone that Luco and daven can't both be wolves due to Luco's last minute switch yesterday.

i'm not sure what to make of luco's switch. If he's wolf then he knows Aubrey and I are both villagers and that dithering late in the day might give villager points. More likely villager than wolf based on this though i guess.

[daven]

he hasn't stood out to me as much as most others so nothing yet. I am looking over his posts now.

there aren't many posts from me. Summary is pretty much day 1 - target jyms and some shit-talk about the quality of my gut vs reptilian digestive systems , day 2 - target rong. Yeah, i'm not doing great.

[daven]

thread read coming in the next few hours

[BankItDrew]

Sorry I've been afk so much this game and super useless. You can blame me if the village loses again.

[GatorJH]

unfortunately, i also thought jyms vs wuf was a great day 1 idea, and i liked the idea of a rong or aubrey lynch yesterday.
this game is messing with my head.

These types of posts are what make me scratch my head. I wouldn't expect a wolf to keep saying "my bad" when everyone they are suspecting turns up villager, but do have to admit that he looks about as wolfish as someone could look. He basically has three periods of postings.

The first one he flipped back and forth quite a bit, but it was all in a short period of time so you can discount honest flipping there.

The second set of posts he seems to have it all figured out and apologizes for missing the first time and the third group of posts mirrors the second group of posts.

He is either a very bad wolf or a very bad villager and more than likely a very bad wolf.

lynch Daven

[GatorJH]

i've been super-busy. I'm villager. I wouldn't be afk like this as a wolf without good reason


Gabe hasn't been active (second lowest in post count), wasn't on one of the two wagons yesterday, and he was jyms' day 1 soulread.

I pulled these two out because you say you can't be a wolf because a wolf wouldn't be that inactive, yet you say Gabe is a wolf because of his low post count.

[jackvance]

jv, I am not sure why you think I have a greater chance of being a wolf than someone like Bigred or Gabe. Their playing styles are different enough this game, imo, to make them wolves more often than I am a wolf.

I get that I have had some recent success as a wolf, but with where we are in this game there should be a much bigger argument than that and my fear is too many people are jumping on the "yep, it's Daven then Gator" theory and not providing their own thoughts on why they think I am a wolf.

I do want to trust you gator, I'm always looking out for people whose opinions I can trust but it's not easy this game. But at the same time I don't like the lynches we've had this game, jyms and aubrey were very easy lynchings and it plays right into the wolves paws.

[Hoopy]

4 votes on daven now, lets make sure we use this day fully.

This is how I'm breaking down the village right now.

Villagers
jack
flomo
hoopy
benny
keith

Unknown
bigred
bankitdrew
luco
gabe

Wolves
daven
gator

[BennyLaRue]

How was that post insincere? And I had to look up Eddie Haskell to know what it meant.

You don't listen to Da Wiggy? Click this shit - explains everything.

http://rapgenius.com/Heltah-skeltah-...s#note-1701679

[BennyLaRue]

aubrey either wins the Oscar or is a villager

Posted very late on Day 2 with Aubrey and daven in a close vote.

Wolves seemingly don't care if aubrey dies. Duck it.

rescind aubrey, Lynch daven

And then this with 45 minutes to go and Aubrey in the lead. This is an extremely clear logic stream to me: if daven is a wolf, gabe and Luco aren't.

[BennyLaRue]

I think this is the right time for this and with the game not on the line today, I hope you guys will not misunderstand this as wolfy: if the seer hasn't looked me up yet, don't do so tonight. It'll be a waste. I'll explain why tomorrow. Promise, 100%.

[gabe]

JV why do you think Benny is a villager? Don't say because chip. You said he has a super sick wolf game but you now have him in your villager camp, what's the reason?

the chip thing is a pretty good reason for benny to not be a wolf. but the mod knows this, and wouldnt want to have a confirmed villager from the start, so maybe benny got tapped to be a wolf...

if the seer hasn't looked me up yet, don't do so tonight. It'll be a waste. I'll explain why tomorrow. Promise, 100%.

this is ridiculous. if you are a bad guy then trusting you tomorrow will make the village lose

[gabe]

Assuming they are masons...anyone else starting to wonder the validity of the claim? I think it's less than 5% chance but still...

I'm ok with switching to Daven. In my mind, a lynch for Daven is also a lynch for Hoopy.

both of these paragraphs are wolfy. the "in my mind" bit is the most suspicious part because it shows him thinking with different parts of his brain. can we lynch bigred instead of daven?? he hasn't done anything. also daven is kinda believable. i think he probably says things differently as a wolf.

[gabe]

what if flomo knew he wasnt going to play much this game? combined with JV knowing about the mason rule, they could have easily come up with this plan and not be too risky

also this game has definitely been quieter, like the wolves are sitting back and waiting for us to kill eachother. if jv and flomo believed their play worked, they wouldnt have to post very much

yesterday i was thinking we just had to hope this scenario was 0%, but the more i think about it the more likely it is

[flomo]

Sorry I've been afk so much this game and super useless. You can blame me if the village loses again.

Are you a wolf?

[OngBonga]

VC 3.2

4 - daven - L-2
2 - hoopy - L-4
1 - gabe - L-5

daven - jack, luco, hoopy, gator
hoopy - keith, bigred
gabe - daven

6 to lynch

Deadline Sunday 8pm UK, 3pm ET

[gabe]

that is a seriously wolfy post by bankitdrew. "You can blame me if the village loses again" sounds like his subconscious betraying his wolf role

[Luco]

Posted very late on Day 2 with Aubrey and daven in a close vote.



And then this with 45 minutes to go and Aubrey in the lead. This is an extremely clear logic stream to me: if daven is a wolf, gabe and Luco aren't.

I agree with you on Luco, he seems like a nice guy. But gabe never made the switch that could have saved Aubrey, he left his vote on bigred.

[Hoopy]

what if flomo knew he wasnt going to play much this game? combined with JV knowing about the mason rule, they could have easily come up with this plan and not be too risky

also this game has definitely been quieter, like the wolves are sitting back and waiting for us to kill eachother. if jv and flomo believed their play worked, they wouldnt have to post very much

yesterday i was thinking we just had to hope this scenario was 0%, but the more i think about it the more likely it is

JV was on 6-7 votes when he outed. They'd be risking 2 wolves because in the event one was seered/shot/lynched the other is outed. They've got to lead the village right now.

[Hoopy]

Sorry I've been afk so much this game and super useless. You can blame me if the village loses again.

Who do you want to lynch today and why?

[BennyLaRue]

the chip thing is a pretty good reason for benny to not be a wolf. but the mod knows this, and wouldnt want to have a confirmed villager from the start, so maybe benny got tapped to be a wolf...

this is ridiculous. if you are a bad guy then trusting you tomorrow will make the village lose

I'm not asking you to trust me tomorrow with this action. I'm asking the seer to do something very specific and I think if you looked at when and how I did it, it will tell you if I'm a wolf or not.

You will or will not trust me tomorrow for my gameplay.

[bigred]

Crickets

[bigred]

lynch daven​ i sppose

[gabe]

this is most crucial time of the game and no one is posting. daven is probably not a wolf or the wolves would have directed people to someone else. i think both the last 2 lynches were lazy so dont make this one of those

lynch bigred

[gabe]

daven is at 5 and 1 more bold would do him in so someone rescind. whats happening cant be good for village. we're one off the bubble and no one is fighting him. if he was a wolf then he outs himself or at least gets one of his homies to defend him

[BankItDrew]

Why are you trying to save him then? I think I caught a wolf in a contradiction.

[gabe]

because if he was a wolf then this thread wouldnt be dead quiet

[bigred]

this is most crucial time of the game and no one is posting. daven is probably not a wolf or the wolves would have directed people to someone else. i think both the last 2 lynches were lazy so dont make this one of those

lynch bigred

Gabe. I say this with love. And bourbon. But you have to be fucking stupid to lynch me if you're not a wolf.

[BankItDrew]

I'm good with gabe's plan.

rescind

lynch bigred

[BankItDrew]

Bigred

Cause gabe said so.

[Luco]

I think we just got a two for one so it's time to out.

I'm the seer. My n1 lookup was rong, unfortunately he got mauled by a gorilla. But n2 I binked.

I looked up Gabe and he's a wolf.

[gabe]

luco is a retarded wolf, or a random seer, or a naive seer


being a dumb wolf wouldnt make any sense so its probably the other 2

rescind and lynch daven

[gabe]

theres no protection tonight (now) since the angel is dead... we'll see who wakes up!

[Luco]

If daven flips town now I'm gonna kick myself for not rescinding

[Luco]

I'm glad you're fighting, Gabe. Makes things so much more interesting.

[Luco]

I still don't see how daven is ever a villager here but Gabe, while we wait for Ong to wake up I want you to at least get some satisfaction that your daven vote is proper messing with my head

[Hoopy]

I think we just got a two for one so it's time to out.

I'm the seer. My n1 lookup was rong, unfortunately he got mauled by a gorilla. But n2 I binked.

I looked up Gabe and he's a wolf.

Nice!

Do we leave him until tomorrow or get rid of him today?

[Luco]

Nice!

Do we leave him until tomorrow or get rid of him today?

He insta closed the deal on daven, day is already over.

[Hoopy]

rescind daven

Don't know if he hit 6 votes at any point.

Luco what do you think of drew and benny?

[Luco]

rescind daven

Don't know if he hit 6 votes at any point.

Luco what do you think of drew and benny?

Im pretty sure he did. Do you mind double checking?

I'm pretty sold on drew as a villager. His n1 wuf rant is potentially too tricky for him to pull off as a wolf.

Benny I'm much less certain of. Need to see more.

[Luco]

I really wish I had rescinded now

[OngBonga]

Holy shit we got a majority!

daven has been lynched!

Drumroll please...

He was a vanilla townie!

bitches -

bigred
bankitdrew
hoopy
luco
jack
gabe
keith
flomo
benny
gator

villagers:wolves 6:4

dead bitches -

jyms - vanilla - lynched d1
wuf - angel - nommed n1
aubrey - vanilla - lynched d2
rong - vanilla - shot n2
rilla - vig - nommed n2
daven - vanilla - lynched d3

It's n3! I'm flat out all day tomorrow so, you can have until midnight UK, 7pm ET Sunday.

[Luco]

Well that was dumb. Sorry guys.

[Luco]

I must tell you all that I actually might survive the night because the wolves have a role blocker and they may want to leave some doubt over Gabe. For what it's worth they also have an alpha wolf who comes back villager when looked up.

Fuck, this is like the 7th consecutive day we haven't lynched a wolf.