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[5NL] AQo in SB c/r flop?

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    Default [5NL] AQo in SB c/r flop?

    BB: $2.79 (55.8 bb) {78/14, 0 3b, 38% donk bet, 39 hands}
    MP: $5.80 (116 bb)
    CO: $27.11 (542.2 bb) {41/37, 43% CB, 57 hands}
    BTN: $6.37 (127.4 bb)
    Hero (SB): $5 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q A
    MP folds, CO raises to $0.15, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

    Flop: ($0.45) 4 8 7 (3 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $0.05, CO raises to $0.31, Hero raises to $1 ?????????, BB calls $0.95, CO folds

    Turn: ($2.76) 6 (2 players)
    Hero ??


    Board: 8d7d4d6c
    Equity Win Tie
    Hero 21.40% 20.26% 1.14% { AdQh }
    CO 41.84% 40.56% 1.28% { 77+, 44, 87s, KdQd, KdJd, QdJd, KdTd, QdTd, JdTd, Kd9d, Qd9d, Jd9d, Td9d, Kd6d, Qd6d, Kd5d, Qd5d, Kd3d, Kd2d, AhKd, AsKd, AcKd, KdQh, KdQs, KdQc, KdJh, KdJs, KdJc, KdTh, KdTs, KdTc, Kd9h, Kd9s, Kd9c, Kd8h, Kd8s, Kd8c }
    BB 36.76% 35.48% 1.28% { 77+, 44, 22, A6s-A5s, A3s-A2s, 87s, 84s, 74s, 65s, KdQd, KdJd, QdJd, KdTd, QdTd, JdTd, Kd9d, Qd9d, Jd9d, Td9d, Kd6d, Qd6d, Jd6d, Td6d, 9d6d, Kd5d, Qd5d, Jd5d, Td5d, 9d5d, Kd3d, Qd3d, Jd3d, Td3d, 9d3d, 6d3d, 5d3d, Kd2d, Qd2d, Jd2d, Td2d, 9d2d, 5d2d, 87o, 65o, AhKd, AsKd, AcKd, KdQh, KdQs, KdQc, KdJh, KdJs, KdJc, KdTh, KdTs, KdTc, Kd9h, Kd9s, Kd9c, Kd8h, Kd8s, Kd8c, Kd7h, Kd7s, Kd7c, Kd6h, Kd6s, Kd6c, Kd5h, Kd5s, Kd5c, Kd4h, Kd4s, Kd4c, Kd3h, Kd3s, Kd3c, Kd2h, Kd2s, Kd2c, QdJh, QdJs, QdJc, QdTh, QdTs, QdTc, Qd9h, Qd9s, Qd9c, Qd8h, Qd8s, Qd8c, Qd7h, Qd7s, Qd7c, Qd6h, Qd6s, Qd6c, Qd5h, Qd5s, Qd5c, Qd4h, Qd4s, Qd4c, Qd3h, Qd3s, Qd3c, Qd2h, Qd2s, Qd2c }

    These ranges are what I think they both CONTINUE with to my checkraise. Based on my analysis I came up with something like 60% fold equity vs. CO and like 50% vs. BB which gives me 30% overall.

    So in isolation the flop bet is...

    (0.30)(0.81)=0.243
    (0.20)(0.214)(2.81)=0.120
    (0.20)(0.786)(-1)=-0.157
    (0.20)(0.334)(1.81)=0.121
    (0.20)(0.666)(-1)=-0.133
    (0.30)(0.374)(1.81)=0.203
    (0.30)(0.626)(-1)=-0.188

    TOTAL=0.209

    So obviously that's pretty rough and probably rife with bad assumptions but there is a lot of uncertainty when trying to exactly break down the ranges of players like these.

    I think turn when called is just a C/F

    Thoughts?
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    You didn't have to raise, it would be better if you only made a call. On the turn you don't have any other option than to c/f.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STILL_mkd View Post
    You didn't have to raise, it would be better if you only made a call. On the turn you don't have any other option than to c/f.
    I don't think calling would be better here. We're OOP to two players, I need 30% pot equity in the hand to just call which I probably don't have, not to mention I don't really like any turn that isn't a diamond as I won't know what to do facing another bet, and I don't really have great implied odds either as it'll be pretty obvious what I have when another diamond comes off???
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    You need 20% to be sslight +EV w/o getting another bet from opp.
    3b pre to .50-.55
    Raise/decide (pot odds) to 1.3-1.5 Flop
    C/decide (pot odds) turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mury View Post
    I don't think calling would be better here. We're OOP to two players, I need 30% pot equity in the hand to just call which I probably don't have, not to mention I don't really like any turn that isn't a diamond as I won't know what to do facing another bet, and I don't really have great implied odds either as it'll be pretty obvious what I have when another diamond comes off???
    Yes, but what would be if it doesn't come another diamond, like on the turn. For that reason I thought that it would be better if you only made a call. However, you raised $1 and BB call you( it's more than sure that he is better than you on the turn), so what would be your next move, if you go check, he will bet???

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