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    Default Carnage before Christmas

    Timeline: There will be 48 hour days, and 24 hour nights with the usual stipulations. I.e. Maj vote ends day early / night ends when all night actions have been submitted to the mod.

    ~~~ D E F I N I T I O N S ~~~
    Hot Shot: A 1-shot vig who must shoot during the day. They post their intent to use their power as a bold-caps in thread.
    E.g. I SHOOT XXXX WITH MY MURCAN GUN. FUCK YEAH! or something to that effect.
    I will not reveal the alignment of the shooter. I can't prevent non-shooters from posting bolds, and if a stream of identical bolds come in, and one of them is a Hot Shot, then I will not reveal which claim was authentic.
    Hot Shots DO NOT send the the mod a PM to activate their power; they post in bold-caps in thread.

    Role Blocker: May not target the same player 2 nights in a row. Once targeted by the role blocker, the target will not be able to use their special power (if any) for that night and the next day.
    E.g. if RB blocks a Hot Shot, that action will be blocked over the following day, since Hot Shot is not a night action.

    Vigilante: may shoot 1 person each night (doesn't have to). This action is hidden, and only the results are posted at the end of the night. The shooter is not revealed. If the vig gets nommed, he will die, but his final shot will happen before his death.

    Bodyguard: may protect any player. Submits their action at night and the protect lasts until the following night, just like the RB. Upon a successful protect, the bodyguard dies, trading his life for the other's.

    Night Watch: (A compromise between silent and talking nights)
    Each night, 2 random living will be chosen by the mod to be night watch. They will have a private thread to chat for the duration of the night. The chat will be closed afterward. The choice is fully random among the living and is chosen at the end of each day. No 2 consecutive nights are expected to have the same pair of Watchmen, but that is possible.
    The alignment of the Night Watch could be V-V, W-V or W-W, it is completely random from among the living players at EOD. There is no mandate that any conversation happens at all in the Night Watch chat.

    Order of role operations:
    1) Role Blocker
    2) Bodyguard
    3) Kills

    All NK's are simultaneous for game mechanics purposes, although I reserve the right to imply otherwise in the write up.


    ~~~ W I N ~ C O N D I T I O N S ~~~
    Village wins when all the wolves are confirmed dead.

    Wolves win when the living villagers are unable to prevent their own demise, assuming game-theoretical perfect play.

    E.g. Parity situation (w/ no specials)
    The wolves can vote as a block, early in the day. They can not reach maj., but their target will be the first person to 50% of the votes, and will be lynched. Wolves have achieved majority and nothing can prevent them from running the lynch votes.

    In a game with specials, various end-game win scenarios exist. The game ends when the outcome is a mathematical certainty.
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    "Gentlemen of Warewolf Village," MMM addressed the crowd, "Thank you for meeting me here this evening. As you know, our fearless governor, rilla, has been away on pilgrimage to walk the path of Lolwat Sup'der. I was hoping we wouldn't have another - incident - while he was away."

    "Jibbers Crabst! wuf killed daven so hard last time, he's still mostly dead." someone shouted.

    MMM waited for the nervous laughter to settle. "Here we are, though.
    "aubrey went missing about 2 weeks ago. At first we assumed she was off on a drug trip. Then after a few days we thought they were probably pretty good drugs. After a week we were fairly convinced they were the kind of drugs she might need help bringing back to the village. So we went looking for her."
    The sun dipped below the jagged mountain peaks that count as the horizon in Werewolf Village.
    MMM continued, "We found her body up near Nevacheck Pass. She must've been on her way home. Wolves." He let the word ring out across the forum.
    "Now. I knew those fuzzy howlers would be back sooner or later, and I'm sick and damn tired of stringing 'em up time and again."
    The crowd all started to eye MMM suspiciously.
    "So I took the liberty of ordering some Murcan guns to be delivered by the Amazon Traders. Where I come from, we like to shoot first, and ask-"

    POP

    People start to scramble as MMM's body crumples into a heap.

    POP

    A 2nd shot cracks in the air. The villagers all dive behind any protective cover they can find.

    ***
    The still night air fills with the sounds of insects and woodland critters mucking about, oblivious to the terror that has befallen Werewolf Village once again.

    As the villagers slowly work themselves back into the light, nervously eying each other, they each do a mental count of who's left alive.

    aubrey mcfate, the Village Healer was nommed on D0
    MMM, the Village Tryhard was shot on D0
    XXXXX an unidentified wolf was shot on D0

    The villagers moved the bodies to the catacombs, went back to their houses and got what restless sleep they could.

    When morning broke, word started to drift around that daven's body was missing from the infirmary. By the time the sun was 1/2 way to noon, daven's body was bound downstream by Youbettacheck Pass.

    As the search parties disparately trickled back to Werewolf Village, everyone gathered back at the forum.

    Fierce resolution and fiery acusations roil just beneath the warm noon air, it seems a foregone conclusion that someone will be swinging from tha gallows before the sun has set.


    The players (13):

    BankItDrew
    baudib
    dhubermex
    gabe
    GatorJH
    Hoopy
    JKDS
    Keith
    keybored
    Luco
    ongbonga
    rong
    wufwuggy


    The roles:

    Village
    1 Vigilante
    2 Hot Shots
    1 Bodyguard
    5 Vanilla


    Den
    1 Role Blocker
    1 Hot Shot
    2 Vanilla
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    Thanks for setting the game up and offering to Mod, MMM.

    I'm proud to say that I have received my favorite role of Vanilla Villager again (YALP). Best of luck to everyone except the Wolves!
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    lynch dhubermex never changingI'm not sure why you would claim vanillager like that, I've never seen anyone do something like that before, especially you.
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    The thread is locked. Closed. NOT STARTED YET.

    Your mod powers are allowing you to post, but it clearly says that the thread is closed.

    PLEASE look before posting in the thread if you have FTR mod powers.

    ***
    You guys have forced my hand.

    Game is open.

    Let the carnage begin.

    ***
    Posting ITT when it is closed is against the rules!
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    lol you donks

    found one! lunch baud

    he claims he never seen dhubs do that before except dhubs did exactly that in the last game and baud noticed. he also thinks highly of dhub's reading skills and i dont think he would be apt to lunch him if he's villager

    ez pz
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    lynch woofwoogy never changing

    I assume you're a new player because I've never seen your screen name before. You must be a wolf because I don't know how you would know these things, someone must have mentioned it in the wolf den to you.
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    my first thoughts on the rules:
    i cant see why people should fake hotshot. if its only a 1shot power, the village doesnt need to protect that person so much. so if more than one person is bolding, we lynch them all

    the bodyguard role is the only role i can remember that playing good makes you die. thats counter intuitive so im leery of that one for future use

    is the night watch just supposed to be fun?
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    The day officially begins, as far as timing is concerned.

    Day 1 will last 48 hours.

    ***
    Everything about the game is intended to be fun. The Night Watch is intended to also be a compromise between the talking nights vs silent nights conversation. Also, I think it has the potential for some shenanigans, depending on how the players use it.

    Consider it an experiment.

    SCIENCE!
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    Da fuck! Where is my fucking gun? I wanted to shoot people!

    And by people, I mean baudib.
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    Rong you early bird, posting at 7am

    Short days, 9-4 split, no seer. Carnage is right
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    village roles look pretty naff. whats the point of the bodyguard , he doesn't stop a kill from happening only the victim, and its not as if we miss anything if the rest of the vigs get killed
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    when do the hot shot victims die and does their death end the day? do victims have to stop posting immediately or can they post until they are announced as dead in case someone fake outs as a hot shot . Also can't see the point in the wolves having a roleblocker, vig /hotshots are more likely to hit a villager so why block them and no need to roleblock the bodyguard. roleblock is when wolves want to block a village power, in this game its pointless.
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    I guess if two hot shots out and one wants to save his shot until the next day to see results then role block could block that hot shot. But just don't out as a hotshot unless you're gonna shoot I guess.
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    Do the wolves role block a specific player or a specific role? Ie can they block the vig without knowing who the vig is?
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    I think the village would be better off randomizing the first lynch. I don't remember the last time a wolf killed so early. On thr othet hand, chatter needs to start somewhere otherwise we have nothing to build off of.

    What about randomizing the top three vote receivers near the end of Day 1?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post

    is the night watch just supposed to be fun?
    I think this is a silly question coming from gabe. Obv the night can be fun or it can provide the village with information.

    lynch gabe
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    This setup definitely favours the wolves. I think if bodyguard is successful we should get told who he was protecting so we at least get a confirmed villager out of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    This setup definitely favours the wolves. I think if bodyguard is successful we should get told who he was protecting so we at least get a confirmed villager out of it
    Luco using reverse psychology to get villager cred.

    rescind
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    why randomize day 1 lynch and not sure what info you are hoping to get from a private chat that you can't tell what happened in it. Left to himself BID is a liability and targetting gabe over that comment seems opportunistic. lynch BID
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    As usual I don't have much to say. I didn't read the rules and I have no reads on anyone yet other than I think Drew is being intentionally obtuse or trolly.
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    sick xpost from Keith. I agree with it.

    Lynch BID never changing
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhubermex View Post
    Thanks for setting the game up and offering to Mod, MMM.

    I'm proud to say that I have received my favorite role of Vanilla Villager again (YALP). Best of luck to everyone except the Wolves!
    Staying the course I see!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    I think the village would be better off randomizing the first lynch. I don't remember the last time a wolf killed so early. On thr othet hand, chatter needs to start somewhere otherwise we have nothing to build off of.

    What about randomizing the top three vote receivers near the end of Day 1?
    My random number generator says 'Bankitdrew Bankitdrew Bankitdrew'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    Rong you early bird, posting at 7am
    Almost like he's a responsible citizen or something.
    Short days, 9-4 split, no seer. Carnage is right
    I'm looking forward to some chaos rather than a slow burner.
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    sup bros, trying to catch on the the thread. will reread from beginning and report back my findings.
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    holy shit you guys post too much! slow the fuck down!

    Here are my thoughts on players so far, since it's D1 I think the best thing to do is just stick with these all game and never change:

    Villager leans
    Dhubermex: The Dhubster says he is a villager and I believe him.

    Rong: Has picked right up from last game, going straight after me. Think he'd feel slightly uncomfortable doing this as a wolf. He also soft-claimed hotshot, which makes him more likely to be a villager IMO.

    Keith: I might actually have a tell on Keith. We'll see how this develops but I think he's a villager despite what is ostensibly an extremely neutral opening. The only issue I have with Keith is his use of "naff." What does that even mean?
    Like can we please cut it out with the internet lingo and acronyms, it's seriously tilting guys.

    Hoopy: Seems natural/relaxed, not trying to prove anything or promote agenda.

    IDK
    Gabe: I'm firmly convinced that he is 100% village or 100% wolf, there's no in-between. I'm sticking with my promise of keeping Gabe alive and I will not support any lynching or shooting of Gabe.

    Wuf: New player, like his posting style, give him the D1 noob pass.

    Wolfy:

    Luco: Trying to look pro-village in talking about the game mechanics and influence the mod. This reminds me of the time Keith tried to do that on that D1 fight with Rilla/Gabe over shorter days.

    BID: What in the what.
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    Can someone shoot him please.
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    naff
    British slang, describes something that is stupid, lame or unpalatable.
    That party was naff — they ran out of beer, and the people were way too uptight.
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    And at one point it was a popular brand of clothing for chavs.
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    Baudib doesn't know british slang, what a bellend
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    lol....you can explain that one luco, also baudibs complaint is ironic really as he was the one thats been dropping slang, terms and abbreviations left right and centre the last couple of games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    lol....you can explain that one luco, also baudibs complaint is ironic really as he was the one thats been dropping slang, terms and abbreviations left right and centre the last couple of games.
    Bellend - end of penis, it's like calling someone a dickhead

    So that's just a wales thing then?
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    I think that comment about slang was supposed to be ironic keith
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    holy shit you guys post too much! slow the fuck down!
    You plonker baudib!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post
    You plonker baudib!
    maybe we should just call him rodney for the rest of the game.
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    I don't think I can keep up with this thread.

    lynch Rilla never changing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    I think that comment about slang was supposed to be ironic keith
    Q: What's the definition of irony?
    A: Something that is ironic.

    from "reality bites"
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    I don't think I can keep up with this thread.

    lynch Rilla never changing
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    I want the rules to be as clear as possible, and I'm happy to answer any questions about mechanics.

    Please help me out by making it clear when you're directing your questions to me ITT.
    Or send me a PM.

    ***
    I've gotten a bunch of PM's about the Hot Shot, already.

    1) The Hot Shots have 1 total shot, not 1 each day.
    2) Their target doesn't KNOW if they are legitimately shot or being trolled until/unless I post that the target is dead.
    3) FTR precedent allows the dead person to post in-game until the mod officially kills them.
    4) The Hot Shot does not end the day. I will close the thread for a few minutes while I do the write up, then open it again.
    5) If multiple Hot Shots post their shots before I have a chance to respond, then all shots count.
    6) It is not impossible that 2 Hot Shots shoot each other before I have the chance to respond. If this is the case, then both will be dead.

    ***
    It's a massive uphill battle for the village in this game. That is by design (and request).

    It's def. a tough game for the Village to win, but with this group of soul-readers I think it's anybody's game.

    I accept all criticism of my choices, but since the game is underway, I will not be changing the rules unless something is broken.

    ***
    EDIT: Please don't flood the thread with spurious bolds. (I assume baudib has every intent to change his bold soon enough, but it is confusing if he doesn't. Don't make this a thing, please.)
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    How wuf thinks he hot shots:


    How wuf actually hot shots:
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    Can I get a HELL YEAH!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post
    Almost like he's a responsible citizen or something.

    I'm looking forward to some chaos rather than a slow burner.
    Speaking of responsible citizens, where's our final and most responsible brit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    Do the wolves role block a specific player or a specific role? Ie can they block the vig without knowing who the vig is?
    MOD!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    when do the hot shot victims die and does their death end the day? do victims have to stop posting immediately or can they post until they are announced as dead in case someone fake outs as a hot shot . Also can't see the point in the wolves having a roleblocker, vig /hotshots are more likely to hit a villager so why block them and no need to roleblock the bodyguard. roleblock is when wolves want to block a village power, in this game its pointless.
    If you had started the last game this way you wouldn't have been immediately pegged wolf.

    keith = villager
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    holy shit you guys post too much! slow the fuck down!

    Here are my thoughts on players so far, since it's D1 I think the best thing to do is just stick with these all game and never change:

    Villager leans
    Dhubermex: The Dhubster says he is a villager and I believe him.

    Rong: Has picked right up from last game, going straight after me. Think he'd feel slightly uncomfortable doing this as a wolf. He also soft-claimed hotshot, which makes him more likely to be a villager IMO.

    Keith: I might actually have a tell on Keith. We'll see how this develops but I think he's a villager despite what is ostensibly an extremely neutral opening. The only issue I have with Keith is his use of "naff." What does that even mean?
    Like can we please cut it out with the internet lingo and acronyms, it's seriously tilting guys.

    Hoopy: Seems natural/relaxed, not trying to prove anything or promote agenda.

    IDK
    Gabe: I'm firmly convinced that he is 100% village or 100% wolf, there's no in-between. I'm sticking with my promise of keeping Gabe alive and I will not support any lynching or shooting of Gabe.

    Wuf: New player, like his posting style, give him the D1 noob pass.

    Wolfy:

    Luco: Trying to look pro-village in talking about the game mechanics and influence the mod. This reminds me of the time Keith tried to do that on that D1 fight with Rilla/Gabe over shorter days.

    BID: What in the what.
    damnit, baudib rolled wolf again.

    PS - I may be lock voting him today and will be able to explain why at the end of "today"
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    that luco post made me think of this:

    If Wufrookie is a hot shot, I think we need to give him some direction on where/who to shoot. As a noob he isn't familiar with anyone's playstyle/meta, so I think some direction is in order.

    Wufwugy, have you ever played WW before? And if so, what site was it?
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  48. #48
    This village is just a few miles from my town....

    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
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    And my Mother has just moved house, she now lives on School Lane, which is just off this road...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    why randomize day 1 lynch and not sure what info you are hoping to get from a private chat that you can't tell what happened in it. lynch BID
    I can't disagree with you. It's just that killing a wolf Day 1 seems to be fucking impossible.
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    Hi Gator

    In my first serious post of the game, I'll avoid interacting with Gator until "tomorrow"

    (back to normal programming)

    Hi Ong, your mom says hi.
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    Lynch MMM, never changing


    I'm pretty sure that MMM just hinted that he is the Cursed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    I can't disagree with you. It's just that killing a wolf Day 1 seems to be fucking impossible.
    Did yoy forget about the game me and keybored just won where we lynch baudibwolf on d1?
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    Hi baudib, your mom can't talk right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Did yoy forget about the game me and keybored just won where we lynch baudibwolf on d1?
    Yes. I guess I did.
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    Baudib is playing retarded. I don't think he'd do this to his wolf team.
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    BID is a villger, Keith is a villager, Baudib also thinks keith is a villager and is getting the same vibe I am, so I can give Baudib some vil cred too.

    Easy game.
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    Gator too for that matter. Easier game.
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    lynch Wufwuf

    If enough of us lynch him, he'll either be able to clear himself or we get a wolf!
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    Like I said, I won't lynch a noob on D1. maybe tomorrow if he's howling, but give the kid a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKDS View Post
    lynch Wufwuf

    If enough of us lynch him, he'll either be able to clear himself or we get a wolf!
    Remember wuf has his "lynching villagers is good for the village" theory, imo he should be the guinea pig that provides meaningful data for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    I can't disagree with you. It's just that killing a wolf Day 1 seems to be fucking impossible.
    It happens occasionally, most of the time there's no trail to follow.

    Though really this game has developed to the point that wolves are so conscious of their interactions with other wolves that trails aren't really there anymore.
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    @MMM

    What is your policy on modkills this game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    Do the wolves role block a specific player or a specific role? Ie can they block the vig without knowing who the vig is?
    r u srsly? NO, you can't post "lynch a wolf" or "I SHOOT A WOLF" or "block the vig." and expect that to fly, like ever.

    All targets in this game are at the player.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post
    @MMM

    What is your policy on modkills this game?
    baudib is pressing his luck. Consider this his final warning. I asked nice the first time, and this time, I'm telling you flat out:

    POSTING A BOLD FOR SOMEONE WHO IS NOT A LIVING PLAYER WILL GET YOU MODKILLED STARTING NOW.


    I don't want to modkill anyone, but if someone goes absent for an entire game day/night cycle, then I can promise I'll be taking action.
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  66. #66
    my bad

    rescind
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
  67. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    How wuf thinks he hot shots:


    How wuf actually hot shots:
    im not sure im as good as you think i am, but i'll take the compliment
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post

    rescind
    Hahahaha

    best rescind ever
  69. #69
    4 poast gayme

    baud bid jkds keybored
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    Hmmmm MMM, yeah I am retard.
    I'm the king of bongo, baby I'm the king of bongo bong.
  71. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
  72. #72
    Probably never lynching Ong this game for that kind of effort.

    Lynch OngBonga, might change tho
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
  73. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    damnit, baudib rolled wolf again.

    PS - I may be lock voting him today and will be able to explain why at the end of "today"
    Ha we all know YOU rolled wolf again and that your epic wolf streak continues unabated!

    lynch Gator
  74. #74
    nope - see my first post above.
    Poker is easy, it's winning at poker that's hard.
  75. #75
    I'm being a rubbish bigred. I didn't do this...

    lynch gator
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong

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