Polygamist Werewolf

[OngBonga]

Wolves are obviously going to muddy the waters today boog. I'm taking nothing from the shit being thrown around today.

Honestly boog, if you hadn't have attacked gabe from the off, this would already be decided. That is literally the only thing stopping me from voting and making sure I'm not missing anything.

You do realise that you just did exactly what you agreed was wolfy of hoopy? You're concerned about your own survival when you can see my main target is someone you agree is a wolf.

Why are you telling me my reads are wrong when from your pov I'm half right?

You're trying to convince me I'm wrong about drew/monkey, instead of happy that I'm eventually going to vote gabe.

[BooG690]

Ong, you're suspecting Luco here and he suspects me. I think you're villager and all but none of your suspicions are adding up. You need to re-evaluate your read on me here. The only team that really makes sense is Gabe/Luco/BID/SMF.

Actually, this logic is pretty bad.

[BooG690]

Wolves are obviously going to muddy the waters today boog. I'm taking nothing from the shit being thrown around today.

Honestly boog, if you hadn't have attacked gabe from the off, this would already be decided. That is literally the only thing stopping me from voting and making sure I'm not missing anything.

You do realise that you just did exactly what you agreed was wolfy of hoopy? You're concerned about your own survival when you can see my main target is someone you agree is a wolf.

Why are you telling me my reads are wrong when from your pov I'm half right?

You're trying to convince me I'm wrong about drew/monkey, instead of happy that I'm eventually going to vote gabe.

I'm happy you're half right, extremely. I guess I worry about the BID/SMF/Rascal/Rilla possibility or even the BID/SMF/You/Aubrey possibility. I personally like a BID lynch better but unfortunately I haven't enough cred to even push that.

[OngBonga]

Is anyone actually a strong villager read here? I have villager reads, but none I'd bet money on.

Yes.

Do elaborate...

Yes, there are strong villager reads.

This kind of flippancy from rilla looks to me like someone in his comfort zone. rilla is not a comfortable wolf, certainly not after recent performances. rilla isn't trying to please anyone here. This is good.

[OngBonga]

I'm happy you're half right, extremely. I guess I worry about the BID/SMF/Rascal/Rilla possibility or even the BID/SMF/You/Aubrey possibility. I personally like a BID lynch better but unfortunately I haven't enough cred to even push that.

I'm happy that drew as a wolf would have either taken the opportunity to add pressure to aubrey, or would at least ignore it in the hope it goes somewhere.

drew looks like he's nipping a mislynch in the bud before it evens becomes viable. The opposite of wolfy.

[BooG690]

I'm happy that drew as a wolf would have either taken the opportunity to add pressure to aubrey, or would at least ignore it in the hope it goes somewhere.

drew looks like he's nipping a mislynch in the bud before it evens becomes viable. The opposite of wolfy.

We've both (you and I) defended villagers as wolves, Ong. I don't find this indicative of villagerness. Nicely done as a wolf but easily done by a wolf.

[OngBonga]

Yeah, and slapping a wolfbro right off the bat is also something wolves do when it would be better for them to not do so.

[BooG690]

Yeah, and slapping a wolfbro right off the bat is also something wolves do when it would be better for them to not do so.

Discussing anything with you seems a moot point. You're pretty set on me being a wolf.

[OngBonga]

That's not all that stops drew from being a wolf. There's monkey's crumb, there's drew's general tone where it feels like he's trying to figure stuff out.

All that stands against drew really is his refusal to nail gabe. That tells me that if drew is a wolf, it's with gabe. But that's ok, because I intend to lynch gabe today.

[OngBonga]

Discussing anything with you seems a moot point. You're pretty set on me being a wolf.

It's nothing personal boog.

[BooG690]

It's nothing personal boog.

It's never personal. It just sucks that me speaking at this point in the game is pointless, apparently.

Anywho, here's to hoping it's Gabe/Luco/BID/SMF. Tis the only team in my mind that makes sense that includes Gabe. Also, my initial Gabe soulread would be proven correct. That'd be cool.

[OngBonga]

Well if it makes you feel any better, I feel like my reread of the thread is pointless, because I feel like I'm always voting gabe here and gabe always gets lynched, regardless of my efforts.

[OngBonga]

I want to know why aubrey is so sure gabe is villa.

I'm surprised you think gabe is a wolf.

hoopy inconsistency relating to gabe looks really bad. The first comment had me thinking that hoopy wasn't wolfing with gabe, but the second comment makes me think hoopy is just using gabe's legit wolfiness to make others look bad.

[OngBonga]

I'm taking a break. This looks done and dusted to me but I wanna finish reading through.

[gabe]

boog/hoopy/smf/bid
boog/hoopy/rilla/rascal
rilla/rascal/smf/bid
rilla/rascal/ong/aubrey

these are the possible wolf teams. rilla/rascal are in 3 of them but i dont think they are necessarily the best vote. the 4th team on the list is such a remote possibility. i keep trying to eliminate the 2nd team because i just didnt get a red flag during gameplay or during review, leaving

boog/hoopy / smf/bid
rilla/rascal / smf/bid

i'd vote for smf/bid

[BankItDrew]

Ong, you're suspecting Luco here and he suspects me. I think you're villager and all but none of your suspicions are adding up. You need to re-evaluate your read on me here. The only team that really makes sense is Gabe/Luco/BID/SMF.

You may or may not be right about gabe and luco but I guaranfuckingtee you're wrong about me and smf.

[gabe]

ong youre playing with blinders on. is this a result of people giving you praise in your loss last game? the reason people aren't sold on me is because i'm not a wolf. i have 80 posts showing it

[BankItDrew]

Actually, this logic is pretty bad.

Yup. It was.

[BankItDrew]

I'm happy that drew as a wolf would have either taken the opportunity to add pressure to aubrey, or would at least ignore it in the hope it goes somewhere.

drew looks like he's nipping a mislynch in the bud before it evens becomes viable. The opposite of wolfy.

Thank you for noticing! I was wondering when I was going to get village cred.

I suck at giving reasons why.

[gabe]

You may or may not be right about gabe and luco but I guaranfuckingtee you're wrong about me and smf.

this is a wolfy post

last game bank it drew added some flair when he made a post he knew he was lying. it was like "___________ HaHaha"

this is the same thing. he wants to guarantee something but put the word fucking in the middle. its unnecessary and out of the ordinary which i think means hes hiding the truth

rilla/rascal/smf/bid

[gabe]

That's not all that stops drew from being a wolf. There's monkey's crumb, there's drew's general tone where it feels like he's trying to figure stuff out.

All that stands against drew really is his refusal to nail gabe. That tells me that if drew is a wolf, it's with gabe. But that's ok, because I intend to lynch gabe today.

what it tells me is that BID wanted wuf to die so rilla/rascal would be cleared

[BankItDrew]

That's not all that stops drew from being a wolf. There's monkey's crumb, there's drew's general tone where it feels like he's trying to figure stuff out.

All that stands against drew really is his refusal to nail gabe. That tells me that if drew is a wolf, it's with gabe. But that's ok, because I intend to lynch gabe today.

I don't have a refusal to vote gabe. I've just agreed with him more than any other player this game.

[BankItDrew]

i'd vote for smf/bid

i take back everything I just said about agreeing with gabe

[Hoopy]

hoopy inconsistency relating to gabe looks really bad. The first comment had me thinking that hoopy wasn't wolfing with gabe, but the second comment makes me think hoopy is just using gabe's legit wolfiness to make others look bad.

3 days between those 2 posts Ong, the game had changed.

[gabe]

rilla/rascal can't be eliminated

rascal took until now to make his first substance post of the game. there are no tone reads on rilla because he has avoided the thread. villager rilla does not have a problem appearing villagery when he is in the trenches. thats not happening this game, he's MIA

the crossclaim nonsense is too fantastical to be swept aside. like, an explanation from rilla on why he partnered with gator would be nice. thats the minimum rilla could offer as a villager

[gabe]

the crossclaim nonsense is too fantastical to be swept aside. like, an explanation from rilla on why he partnered with gator would be nice. thats the minimum rilla could offer as a villager

i say this because wolfrilla will not be able to properly explain it, so he will avoid the thread

[OngBonga]

I don't have a refusal to vote gabe. I've just agreed with him more than any other player this game.

I meant at deadline yesterday. This would be so much easier if gabe was yesterday's lynch.

gabe does have a point, to give him credit where it's due. You could be a wolf with rilla and rascal, knowing that wuf's flip looks amazing for rilla. There's reason as a wolf you'd avoid villager gabe in that spot, assuming you're with rascal and rilla.

But I strongly suspect gabe is attempting to tap into my paranoia here.

Overall, rascal/rilla/drew/monkey have demonstrated a much more apparent desire to figure stuff out. otoh, gabe/keith/hoopy/boog have been wolfy throughout, basically on everyone's radar.

If wolves are rascal/drew/rilla/monkey, they've played well and deserve to win.

[gabe]

Overall, rascal/rilla/drew/monkey have demonstrated a much more apparent desire to figure stuff out. otoh, gabe/keith/hoopy/boog have been wolfy throughout, basically on everyone's radar.

If wolves are rascal/drew/rilla/monkey, they've played well and deserve to win.

people giving you props last game has ruined you as a villager. youve clung to the same wrong ideas for days

i have been non stop trying to get to the wolves this game. i could not have posted this way as a wolf. i've only tried to solve solve solve and yet you just glaze over it

[gabe]

i'm not tapping into your paranoia, im trying to get you to tap out of your paranoia (about the wrong things)

[gabe]

id like boog hoopy smf bid's thoughts on rilla / rascal. its the only way to get ong to snap out of it

[OngBonga]

people giving you props last game has ruined you as a villager. youve clung to the same wrong ideas for days

This doesn't even make any sense. I was a wolf last game.

Also, you're domonstrating that know know I'm a villager here.

[BooG690]

i'd vote for smf/bid

Then vote smf/bid

[gabe]

sure it makes sense, you think you know everything when you are wrong. its been reinforced

[gabe]

Then vote smf/bid

lynch bid

i'm trying to solve this but i feel like im the only one reviewing the thread

[BankItDrew]

id like boog hoopy smf bid's thoughts on rilla / rascal. its the only way to get ong to snap out of it

First of all, I read rascals tone correctly exactly 0% of the time. This game, I feel like I have monsters under the bed in that rascal always seems villagery to me but I keep remembering I can't read him.

Rilla is similar except he's been wolfier for one main reason - his posts appear helpful but they provide zero insight into what he's thinking. This WW format is probably good for wolves who want to hide during the game. All they need are two mislynches and the game's over. By providing a poe list (has he done anything else?), I feel like he's doing the bare minimum.

[gabe]

boog does that mean you are going to join me?

[BooG690]

the crossclaim nonsense is too fantastical to be swept aside. like, an explanation from rilla on why he partnered with gator would be nice. thats the minimum rilla could offer as a villager

I hate the fact that Rilla happened to crossclaim with the OTHER team that happened to be there last. As in, Rilla/Rascal both waited for one team to be left for the crossclaim stuff to start.

[BooG690]

boog does that mean you are going to join me?

BID is my preferred lynch today, yes.

[OngBonga]

lynch bid

i'm trying to solve this but i feel like im the only one reviewing the thread

lol I guess you're not noticing me quote posts as I read through.

[OngBonga]

I wasn't thinking about MAJ if it's not Gabe, but I don't really believe that.

rescind

This recind is critical.

rascal can only be a wolf vs villager gabe if he's wolfing with boog and hoopy. If rascal is a wolf, and gabe/boog/hoopy are all villagers, why the fuck would rascal rescind when the wolves are on the brink of winning?

[BankItDrew]

lynch bid

i'm trying to solve this but i feel like im the only one reviewing the thread

I wish smf would assist me here.

[OngBonga]

What now gabe?

[gabe]

First of all, I read rascals tone correctly exactly 0% of the time. This game, I feel like I have monsters under the bed in that rascal always seems villagery to me but I keep remembering I can't read him.

Rilla is similar except he's been wolfier for one main reason - his posts appear helpful but they provide zero insight into what he's thinking. This WW format is probably good for wolves who want to hide during the game. All they need are two mislynches and the game's over. By providing a poe list (has he done anything else?), I feel like he's doing the bare minimum.

no way BID had seen my lynch as he was typing this but its funny how i agree with everything he says. to me this says BID is a wolf, or my read on rilla is right, because for BID to also be a villager, that means POE says rilla/rascal/boog/hoopy is the team

[OngBonga]

...that means POE says rilla/rascal/boog/hoopy is the team

sick crosspost

[OngBonga]

Ok so the only reason a wolf team of monkey/drew/me/aubrey or monkey/drew/rilla/rascal hasn't already won this is because monkey is inactive. But monkey has posted today, and if wolves were on the brink of winning, I'd expect him to at least be checking the den.

I think monkey/drew/rilla/rascal is now proven to be not the wolf team by virtue of game not being lynched yet.

[BooG690]

BID, who are your four? Break down in percentages if need be.

[OngBonga]

gabe is either a wolf, or has wolves voting for him.

Or both, of course. But any team that doesn't have at least one of those pairs in it would have won by now.

[BooG690]

gabe is either a wolf, or has wolves voting for him.

Or both, of course. But any team that doesn't have at least one of those pairs in it would have won by now.

At this point, wolves need to be casting shade on other wolves with the hope of lynching the OTHER pair.

[OngBonga]

That gabe has voted for drew while taking two votes off boog and hoopy with no action proves that gabe is not thinking like a village rin this spot.

Where is the panic about getting railed by the wolves? He knows that's not going to happen.

I've seen enough, and I'm going out soon.

lynch gabe

That's unbolded to allow for more discussion, I mean I'd like aubrey to chip in a little more. But my mind is made up. I'm voting gabe unless something really crazy happens.

[gabe]

ong you mustve misunderstood me. you just cherry picked my saying "POE says rilla/rascal/boog/hoopy is the team" completely out of context. read the rest of the sentence please. i'm fine with boog/hoopy/smf/bid

i see what youre saying about rascal rescinding but i also think it would be too insane to have a snap lynch on day 2. rascal would look really bad if he was caught in the thread and didnt rescind so close to MAJ

[gabe]

ong if you believe what you say, then we can find a consensus

[BooG690]

ong if you believe what you say, then we can find a consensus

And I'm parked on you. Thanks for that.

[gabe]

And I'm parked on you. Thanks for that.

i'm voting for BID...

[BankItDrew]

BID, who are your four? Break down in percentages if need be.

Gabe/luco 25%
rilla/rascal 35%
boog/hoopy 30%
ong/aubrey 10%

[gabe]

the point is that we can work together to find the most +EV pair to hang. when the pieces are added up, we have a pair that makes the village an overwhelming favorite to win. i am not in that pair. ive had a fully engaged village brain all game

[gabe]

And I'm parked on you. Thanks for that.

i have to try to preserve my self because im a villager and we both lose if it goes through. my entire tone and style could not be done as a wolf

[OngBonga]

gabe is also voting for the suboptimal lynch from his pov. drew/monkey can only be a wolves with boog/hoopy. If drew was wolf with me, or rascal, they can win right now by lynching gabe. So gabe is staking it all on one team.

He could vote for hoopy/boog, and remove the potential for them being wolves with others, such as rascal/rilla.

But gabe doesn't actually want to lynch hoopy or boog.

gabe is not thinking like a villager here. That's because he isn't one.

[OngBonga]

the point is that we can work together to find the most +EV pair to hang.

You say this while your vote is parked on drew.

If you're a villager, this is the worst I've seen you play gabe.

[gabe]

im sure people thought that when i knew the wolves went triple fake claim a few months ago

i parked on BID because i didnt want to argue with boog about why i hadnt. i like your move of saying it and not bolding

[OngBonga]

You're talking about ev while voting for someone who only can be a wolf with one other pair.

Make this gabe vs boog.

[gabe]

also its worth saying because i always do this type of stuff... sometimes actions are meant to get other people to do stuff. you can misread the intention all you want, but bad posts can be catalysts for good results

[gabe]

You're talking about ev while voting for someone who only can be a wolf with one other pair.

Make this gabe vs boog.

all pairs are not created equal!!!

if we have 3 pairs, that doesnt mean they are all 33%

[BooG690]

i parked on BID because i didnt want to argue with boog about why i hadnt.

This is unlike you.

[OngBonga]

This still doesn't make sense.

The chances of drew/monkey being wolves with rilla rascal is exactly the same as the chances of rilla/rascal being wolves with drew/monkey.

Only, when you throw in there's no chance of drew/monkey being wolves with anyone else, and there's a reasonable chance of boog/hoopy being wolves with others, your position about how drew is more +ev than boog falls apart.

You're not this bad at poker.

[gabe]

This is unlike you.

no i often avoid getting into it with people if it will make us both look bad. i try to only argue things that are constructive. i dont think that argument had any constructive potential, and besides i dont mind voting BID

[BooG690]

boog does that mean you are going to join me?

ong if you believe what you say, then we can find a consensus

The combination of these two posts is what sold me. You're looking for anyone to help you with a mislynch here.

[OngBonga]

If gabe is so sure I'm wrong (why wouldn't he be from his villager pov) then there's no reason why he should fear going up against boog instead of drew.

[BooG690]

If gabe is so sure I'm wrong (why wouldn't he be from his villager pov) then there's no reason why he should fear going up against boog instead of drew.

Even I can agree with this.

[OngBonga]

Even I can agree with this.

The why does he fear it?

[gabe]

The combination of these two posts is what sold me. You're looking for anyone to help you with a mislynch here.

i'm looking for anyone that sees i'm a villager!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you are making up ideas and projecting them on me

[gabe]

The why does he fear it?

i dont fear bolding boog

this all came about because i wanted you guys to look at rascal/rilla. that was completely pure viewpoint and you tunnelers didnt even try. im a villager

[BooG690]

i'm looking for anyone that sees i'm a villager!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you are making up ideas and projecting them on me

I don't think anyone sees you're a villager.

[BooG690]

i dont fear bolding boog

this all came about because i wanted you guys to look at rascal/rilla. that was completely pure viewpoint and you tunnelers didnt even try. im a villager

What are YOUR percentages, gabe?

[OngBonga]

boog, why do you think gabe fears going up against you? I want you to answer that, not gabe.

[BooG690]

boog, why do you think gabe fears going up against you? I want you to answer that, not gabe.

I honestly think he's using his wolfiness against me. He's doing a good job of keeping his bold off me thus convincing others it's a Gabe/Luco/BooG/Hoopy team.