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    Experience? Who has experience of being an ambassador? Not many ambassadors when they get the job. He has experience in European government, and as a well-known British politician, which incidentally is a lot more experience that Trump himself. He has enough experience for the job, considering there is only a handful of people who are better qualified. This is a ridiculous point to make.

    He doesn't represent what you think the country stands for, or what the ruling Conservative party think the country stands for, but I think you'd be surprised at how much popular appeal he has. He certainly represents the views of a lot of people. The fact UKIP have demoted the Lib Dems into the realm of minor party shows just how much appeal he has.

    A fourth is that making him ambassador would be putting us in a subservient position to Trump, and that would be a dumb move diplomatically.
    Do you really think that Farage is a man who would become subservient to anybody? I can argue equally that the reverse would happen, that Trump would become subservient to farage, and it would be an equally ridiculous thing to claim.

    I can probably think of about ten more good reasons if i spent the time on it.
    Please do.

    Well, no it doesn't work that way. If you're leader of a party you're meant to be steering that ship. You don't get to just dissociate yourself from some of the unsavoury characters in your party while keeping them in your party. By allowing such people in your party, your tacitly endorsing their expressed views.
    This is a fair point. But you have to get inside Farage's head to say that he is responsible for the unsavoury views of his party. His only goal was to get the UK out of the EU. That was his sole political ambition. He realised that he needed to turn the cheek regarding some of UKIP's members and their comments and actions in order to focus on his ambition. Once we voted to leave the EU, he quit UKIP.

    It can also be argued that if you hold this view, then every leader of any party therefore is responsible for the actions and views of the party's members. There are racists in the Conservative party. Does that make May a racist? No, of course not. Her actions determine that, not the opinions of people in her party.

    There's plenty of examples of him saying and doing things that hurt him politically. You can try to fanboysplain all of them as somehow being clever on some higher level, but they're not.
    Well he won, so he is smarter than everyone thought he was a year ago when people said he was a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Well he won, so he is smarter than everyone thought he was a year ago when people said he was a joke.
    Many people, myself included, still think he's a joke. It's just not as funny now that he's in power.

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