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    Are you guys really just hearing about this now? This has been in the news prominently since about 5 minutes after the shooting.

    Part of the problem is that the guy was a coward. There's not much you can do about that. I mean, there are probably psych tests that cops have to take and from that they can figure out who's a pussy and who's a stud. Then give the pussies the really easy low risk jobs.....like guarding a school where nothing happens 99.9999999% of the time.

    Another part of the problem is training. It's not clear how well trained this officer was to deal with this particular situation. That is surprising and sad. One of the beneficial side-effects of school shootings, is that law enforcement has been able to develop advanced techniques for this exact situation. Now there is widespread literature on effective methods to confront shooters. If that training was not implemented, then this coward cop deserves decidedly less than full blame.

    Even if the training was implemented at some point, it's clear that it was not well reinforced. One of the details that's swirled around this story is the lack of drills, practice, and refreshed training. There's a reason we put soldiers through hell all day every day even in peace time. It's so that when the war starts....they'll be able to call upon their training, and suppress instincts of fear and doubt. In crisis, your mind goes to what's rehearsed, familiar, and comfortable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Are you guys really just hearing about this now? This has been in the news prominently since about 5 minutes after the shooting.

    Part of the problem is that the guy was a coward. There's not much you can do about that. I mean, there are probably psych tests that cops have to take and from that they can figure out who's a pussy and who's a stud. Then give the pussies the really easy low risk jobs.....like guarding a school where nothing happens 99.9999999% of the time.

    Another part of the problem is training. It's not clear how well trained this officer was to deal with this particular situation. That is surprising and sad. One of the beneficial side-effects of school shootings, is that law enforcement has been able to develop advanced techniques for this exact situation. Now there is widespread literature on effective methods to confront shooters. If that training was not implemented, then this coward cop deserves decidedly less than full blame.

    Even if the training was implemented at some point, it's clear that it was not well reinforced. One of the details that's swirled around this story is the lack of drills, practice, and refreshed training. There's a reason we put soldiers through hell all day every day even in peace time. It's so that when the war starts....they'll be able to call upon their training, and suppress instincts of fear and doubt. In crisis, your mind goes to what's rehearsed, familiar, and comfortable.
    All that training costs money. If the US wasn't so concerned with spending such a large chunk of its GDP on keeping its military trained and armed to the teeth to face imaginary threats like being invaded by Canada, maybe they would have more to spend on mental health and ways to prevent their own people from going on killing sprees on a regular basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    All that training costs money. If the US wasn't so concerned with spending such a large chunk of its GDP on keeping its military trained and armed to the teeth to face imaginary threats like being invaded by Canada, maybe they would have more to spend on mental health and ways to prevent their own people from going on killing sprees on a regular basis.
    This sounds like something you heard in a humanities class where the professor holds class outside, barefoot, with a guitar, wearing a poncho that smells like Ong's pot drawer.

    It costs exactly the same amount of money for that cop to rehearse and active-shooter drill, as it does to pay him to ride a golf cart around campus and jerk off in the bushes.

    It's not a money problem. And if it is a money problem....what do you think this cost...

    Last edited by BananaStand; 03-16-2018 at 09:27 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    It costs exactly the same amount of money for that cop to rehearse and active-shooter drill, as it does to pay him to ride a golf cart around campus and jerk off in the bushes.

    It's not a money problem. And if it is a money problem....what do you think this cost...
    No, it's much more expensive, and yes, it's a money problem. But not only that, it's not a problem that should exist because other countries do not have that problem. There's no debate on whether or not there should be armed guards in schools of other developed countries because there's no other country where students are the target of shootings like that. If it were, you'd have a point, but it's not and there are ways to deal with this issue directly that are not fucking retarded.
    Last edited by oskar; 03-16-2018 at 09:46 AM.
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