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    Default this one baffled the whole table...

    he hits bottom pair on the flop (playing 23 suited), with little chance to improve, and then pushes hard with a flush (and two overs to his pair) on the board?

    i limped my AJ on the button only because i've gotten hurt with AJ, and didn't want to reopen betting.

    i guess this is an example of playing by "feel", more than odds (ala rippy's recent post). clearly, i wasn't getting pot odds to call the flop bet, but:

    - i'm drawing to the nut flush
    - i'm pretty sure he just paired the board (just didn't think the 3), and even if he's on a flush draw to, mine's better
    - based on his trying push me off of my draw, i'm pretty sure if i hit the flush, i can make a lot from it

    so, the implied odds to me were quite good.

    still, an odd hand...

    *********** # 4 **************
    PokerStars Game #545563080: Tournament #2074005, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2004/07/15 -
    02:09:32 (ET)
    Table '2074005 1' Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: bobrob55 (1470 in chips)
    Seat 2: Jg375 (1870 in chips)
    Seat 3: vovchik71 (1260 in chips)
    Seat 4: fishstick666 (1470 in chips)
    Seat 5: kbats (1570 in chips)
    Seat 6: ThaGodFather (1500 in chips)
    Seat 7: Vineyard (1500 in chips)
    Seat 8: gmanshade (1500 in chips)
    Seat 9: E.O.D. (1360 in chips)
    kbats: posts small blind 10
    ThaGodFather: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to fishstick666 [Jd Ad]
    Vineyard: folds
    gmanshade: folds
    E.O.D.: calls 20
    bobrob55: calls 20
    Jg375: folds
    vovchik71: calls 20
    fishstick666: calls 20
    kbats: calls 10
    ThaGodFather: checks
    *** FLOP *** [3d 9h Qd]
    kbats: checks
    ThaGodFather: checks
    E.O.D.: checks
    bobrob55: checks
    vovchik71: bets 20
    fishstick666: calls 20
    kbats: folds
    ThaGodFather: folds
    E.O.D.: raises 120 to 140
    bobrob55: folds
    vovchik71: folds
    fishstick666: calls 120
    *** TURN *** [3d 9h Qd] [Kd]
    E.O.D.: bets 300
    fishstick666: raises 500 to 800
    E.O.D.: raises 400 to 1200 and is all-in
    fishstick666: calls 400
    *** RIVER *** [3d 9h Qd Kd] [4c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    E.O.D.: shows [3h 2h] (a pair of Threes)
    fishstick666: shows [Jd Ad] (a flush, Ace high)
    fishstick666 collected 2820 from pot
    Jg375 said, "..."
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 2820 | Rake 0
    Board [3d 9h Qd Kd 4c]
    Seat 1: bobrob55 folded on the Flop
    Seat 2: Jg375 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: vovchik71 folded on the Flop
    Seat 4: fishstick666 (button) showed [Jd Ad] and won (2820) with a flush, Ace high
    Seat 5: kbats (small blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: ThaGodFather (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 7: Vineyard folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: gmanshade folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: E.O.D. showed [3h 2h] and lost with a pair of Threes
    i hate what i have become to escape what i hated being...
  2. #2
    Woops... thought it was flush over flush. Disreguard.
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    I assume you mean the river was a 4 of hearts? Or was this place just very nice to you, by crediting you with a 4 card flush?
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    Quote Originally Posted by michael1123
    I assume you mean the river was a 4 of hearts? Or was this place just very nice to you, by crediting you with a 4 card flush?
    i had the ace high diamond flush...

    he had the awesome pair of 3's.
    i hate what i have become to escape what i hated being...
  5. #5
    Flop: stone cold bluffed on the flop, hoping to take it down right there.

    Turn: He probably put you on AQ, and figured bluffing either the flush or the pair of Kings would get you to fold.

    Reraise of your turn bet: stupid.
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    Wow, I thought the 3 on the flop was a heart. ... He didn't even have the low flush draw I thought he had ...

    That's horrible, but sadly I've seen players like that before. I was on a table the other day, and one guy has like $15 left. I bet $3 preflop with QQ and he calls. The flop is like a rainbow J54, and I bet another $6 or so, and he shoves all in on me and I call. The turn is a K and the river is a rag, and it shows he had Q7 ...
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by TheNatural
    Flop: stone cold bluffed on the flop, hoping to take it down right there.

    Turn: He probably put you on AQ, and figured bluffing either the flush or the pair of Kings would get you to fold.

    Reraise of your turn bet: stupid.
    I've been as stupid as E.O.D. before. I bluff and I get called. I bluff again and I get called. And I'm embaressed to show my cards at the end. Yo hit it, TheNatural, when E.O.D. reraised all-in after the turn that was his stupid mistake. He should have known he would get called.
    I don't know what they have to say
    It makes no difference anyway.
    Whatever it is...
    I'm against it.

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