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  1. #1

    Default The river did me dirty

    There was 4 of us left in a SNG when the turn gave me a flush Ace high.

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    PokerStars Game #662707435: Tournament #2546905, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2004/09/02 - 23:12:00 (ET) Table '2546905 1' Seat #2 is the button Seat 2: Phen (5865 in chips)
    Seat 4: chipsbemine (1675 in chips)
    Seat 8: NikkiTenny (2105 in chips)
    Seat 9: jepzilla (3855 in chips)
    chipsbemine: posts small blind 100
    NikkiTenny: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to NikkiTenny [6h Ah]
    jepzilla: folds
    Phen: folds
    chipsbemine: raises 200 to 400
    NikkiTenny: calls 200
    *** FLOP *** [9h Qh Qd]
    chipsbemine: checks
    NikkiTenny: bets 600
    chipsbemine: calls 600
    *** TURN *** [9h Qh Qd] [Th]
    chipsbemine: checks
    NikkiTenny: bets 675
    chipsbemine: calls 675 and is all-in
    *** RIVER *** [9h Qh Qd Th] [Qc]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    chipsbemine: shows [Qs 7c] (four of a kind, Queens)
    NikkiTenny: shows [6h Ah] (a flush, Ace high)
    jepzilla said, "wow"
    chipsbemine collected 3350 from pot
    chipsbemine said, "omg"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 3350 | Rake 0
    Board [9h Qh Qd Th Qc]
    Seat 2: Phen (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: chipsbemine (small blind) showed [Qs 7c] and won (3350) with four of a kind, Queens Seat 8: NikkiTenny (big blind) showed [6h Ah] and lost with a flush, Ace high Seat 9: jepzilla folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    4 Queens on the river, I was not happy. I regrouped and took him out later
  2. #2
    This is just my opinion, but I don't like your flop call for that price. Unless I'm mistaken he's making a near pot sized bet here. Either believe that he has the queen and fold, or don't believe it and push all-in on a semi-bluff. If you push and he does have the queen (which he did) at least you are seeing all 5 cards for your flush draw. Whether you push or fold here depends on your opponent's table image.....but I don't like just calling here. You're chasing.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by DrNoChance
    .... I don't like your flop call for that price.....
    Tenny was doing the betting. However, when the board is paired, flush draws and straight draws suck. You have 9 outs to hit the flush, or 8 to the open ender; at the river, he has 9 outs to a boat and one to hit quads. This is why trips is one of my favorite hands to play, everyone over-rates their draws.
    Is that guy still part of the forum??
  4. #4
    When he was SB and I was BB and the other two players had folded he raised everytime to take my blind. I had to fold the other times this time with the ace six suited I called it, thinking he was just trying to steal again. I made the bet after the other 2 hearts fell on the flop thinking he had nothing. When he called, I had him on Queens, the turn brought me my ace high flush and figured I had him, which I did until the river. I really didn't think I was chasing, maybe my bet after the flop was too big ?
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by rdu steve
    Quote Originally Posted by DrNoChance
    .... I don't like your flop call for that price.....
    Tenny was doing the betting. However, when the board is paired, flush draws and straight draws suck. You have 9 outs to hit the flush, or 8 to the open ender; at the river, he has 9 outs to a boat and one to hit quads. This is why trips is one of my favorite hands to play, everyone over-rates their draws.
    Whoops, he was betting there and not calling. My mistake. No more trying to read hand histories while at work...

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