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If this is true, then why are you differentiating between T6s and 82o?
Because it's not entirely true. Even I accept 82o is a long term loser. Perhaps the very best players could find a way to make money with it, but I'm not about to try.
I should be more accurate... I think a lot of hands are profitable it late position at the micros.
Noone, and I REPEAT, NOONE, is telling you to play using a hand chart. Why do you assume this?
Because people keep going on about T6 being -ev. If we're only playing hands pre flop that are +ev, then we are playing hand chart poker. You guys seem to be mashing ranges into stove and doing what it says, instead of playing each hand as it comes to you. It's a different style of play, it's a clash, I guess. Perhaps stove mashing is a better way to play, in fact I know it is. But it's not how I want to play poker. It's destroying something I love, it's like shitting on my weed. I don't mind cutting out what loses me money, but I'm not about to stop doing what's winning me money. I doubt you even believe I'm winning money playing this loose in late position, but I am. Blame the fish for not folding when they should.
Why does this line not carry over when you are considering which hands to open (obviously wider standards, but there is still a line)?
Well, like you point out, there is a line. I guess I'm looking for as many ways to hit a flop as possible. 72o is not going to flop me a straight draw, flush draw and middle pair. It might flop me a full house once every eight months, and maybe even quads one day, but it's not a strong multi-way hand. T6s is better, for obvious reasons. So if I'm looking for hands that can hit more flops, I'm looking at 78s, 46s, AK, JTs, T8s KJ etc, but not hands like A6o, K5s, J3o, 78o, 64o, 29 etc
If we think it's -EV, do you expect us to hold our tongues and say it's fine? Then what good would we be doing you? If we think it's -EV, then we are going to say so.
This term ev seems misleading. From where I'm sitting, it seems flawed. It assumes too much. It tells us that, if we stacked off, we'd either win long term or lose long term based on probability. It assumes AK is equally as easy to fold as 23 when it's losing. It assumes all players are equal.
Expected value. Well, I expect to win one in three pots against AK with 23. I expect, at micros, AK to lose more money than 23 does when it loses. In fact, I expect it to lose, on average, more than twice as much as 23 does when it loses. So, based on these assumptions, I expect to make money with 23 against AK.
Now, with less fish, I would not expect AK to lose more than twice as much as 23 does when it loses. I would expect it to lose a little bit more on average than 23, but not anywhere near enough to make up for the -ev pre flop decision to play 23.
ev is not all that pre flop, in my opinion. I have three more rounds of betting to make up the difference. This is where I want to improve, I want to be able to make enough money post flop to justify my pre flop hand selection.
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