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 Originally Posted by acg123
I 3bet hands like K7s etc, not call.
My point was that K7s is a weaker hand that 97s when you're not all-in PRE. If I was going to play 1 or the other, I'd pick 97s. If you're defending your SB to MP openers with a range wide enough to include both, then you're playing a lot of -EV hands in that spot. Personally, I wouldn't even play 97s against an MP opener, I'd rather be 3-bet bluffing with A2s-A6s. I will prob. 3-bet 97s against an aggressive blind stealer on my right a non-zero % of the time, but it's not a go-to tactic. I do not play a weak KXs hand from any position other than to steal blinds when it's folded to me on the BTN. (At full ring cash game.)
Originally Posted by acg123
The reason is people play supertight vs. A 3bet even in position. I use to 3bet AKo vs every position (except UTG)until i realized that people are folding too much to 3bets.
When they don't fold... what are you in a hand against (their range)? And what are you holding (your range)?
Originally Posted by acg123
Bovada has a weird but cool thing where two days after a hand is played you can see ALL opponents cards that were dealt. Whether they played or not.
They open for viewing 24 hours after you close the table. It's not technically 2 days, but I usually go back 2 days to study/review, since I prefer to study before I hit the tables, rather than after. I note hands by their hand # and the time of the hand for when I want to review them later.
This is an excellent tool, and you should def. be using it.
Originally Posted by acg123
So i went back and looked and people are opening alot of broadways and folding to 3bets. So why eould i 3bet AKo? its a pretty good favorite vs that range. So i choose to to 3bet hands that have equity vs. That range but not enough equity to call. Hence i 3bet my premiums, and weaker Axs,Kxs that cant profitably call as bluffs. You see what im saying?
It's hard to imagine them having a continuing range against which AKo is not at least a 0EV hand.
You simply must bet the top of your range, and AKo is way up in the top of your range. Playing AKo in 3-bet pots will win you more money when you win the pot than when you play AKo in not 3-bet pots. You're not gaining value by NOT betting your top holdings.
Originally Posted by acg123
I built my ranges after reading spoons articles and thought i had a decent idea of what was going on. When i get to my computer ill post my ranges that ive constructed, see what you think.
To be fair, you're approaching a sensible thought process for constructing your ranges. You're not there yet, but you're heading the right direction.
There's no use in posting your ranges w/o Villain's ranges and a betting scenario.
It's much better to take this hand as a guide and say, MP has over 200BB, and opens from MP at 3x.
1) What is Villains range?
It is folded to Hero in the SB, let's assume the BB will always fold for the sake of simplicity.
2) What %-age of hands does Hero need to continue with to prevent being exploited?
Assuming Hero 3-bets to 9x:
3) What range will Villain 4-bet? / What range will Villain flat? / What range will Villain fold?
4) Using the answers to these 3 questions, what does that tell us about Hero's optimal range to call a raise? to 3-bet/fold? to 3-bet/call?
(Let's just assume Hero can not 5-bet for now, since even 4-bets are rare at the micros.)
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