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    Default [10NL] ATo...Iso fish w/ history...Line check.

    Villain is 68/16/0 (3bet) over 20 hands.

    Got history w/ villain. Just two hands ago I stacked him after he called a raise and then my cold 3bet IP. He raised me AI on a 752r flop w/ A7o.

    PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: $9.85
    SB: $20.73
    BB: $24.09
    UTG: $10.00
    MP: $15.93
    Hero (CO): $20.83

    SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A T

    fold, MP calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, fold, fold, fold, MP calls $0.30

    Flop: ($0.95, 2 players) 5 A 4
    MP bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

    Turn: ($2.75, 2 players) 9
    MP bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30

    River: ($5.35, 2 players) Q
    MP bets $3.30, Hero calls $3.30
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  2. #2
    Hmm, given the A7 hand I think this is a tough spot. Normally, I'd probably fold the turn due to the sizing of the flop donk. I think I could go either way here - if he's raising 16% though, it seems unlikely he's limpcalled a stronger ace.

    In practise, I normally just fold these sorts of spots - isolating and value towning limpers or isolating and having them put 5bb in the pot then just fold 70% of flops for a half pot sized cbet is so profitable, I think it's as well to just give it up when they wake up and start betting and you have a marginal hand.
  3. #3
    raising 16%, 20 hands.

    And Cobra you don't have a history with villain at all, it's 20 hands. You just know that he stacks off too wide.

    Just fold the turn or river tbh, river probably.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by ImSavy View Post
    raising 16%, 20 hands.

    And Cobra you don't have a history with villain at all, it's 20 hands. You just know that he stacks off too wide.

    Just fold the turn or river tbh, river probably.
    Of course we have history. I have just stacked him, there is a very good chance he will change how he plays against me because of this.
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  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra_1878 View Post
    Of course we have history. I have just stacked him, there is a very good chance he will change how he plays against me because of this.
    Based on what? You seem to think that winning a bit pot vs someone is going to cause them to tilt and stack off with ATC for the next hour.

    I imagine it's effects are really minor, almost not even worth thinking about. Whereas knowing that he stacks off with A7 on a 7 high board is pretty awesome for us, especially when we know it's him GII as that's awful and something that's unlikely to change.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by ImSavy View Post
    Based on what? You seem to think that winning a bit pot vs someone is going to cause them to tilt and stack off with ATC for the next hour.
    I didn't realize that's what I said. Good interpretation of my post.

    I said there was a chance he would change how he might regularly play me. Based on the fact I have seen plenty of villain's do it at 10NL especially fish who lose a BI.
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  7. #7
    The sizing discrepancy between flop and turn is very weird. Feels draw'ish to me.

    Flop - "I wanna get a fold with my draw, bet bigggg"
    Turn - "Uhoh he called, I want to draw for as cheap as possible, bet smallll"

    I probably end up calling here,needing only to be good 27%. It's probably close either way.
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    well played IMO.
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    What's our reasoning for folding turn, given last hand especially? Surely there's to many draws in there still to be folding turn?

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