[25NL] - KK 3b Pot

Villian is unknown

I think everything is standard until the turn, I could 3bet flop but he could be c/r a worse pair with a heart and maybe not call a 3b/shove.

I feel like when he checks to me on turn he has some kind of pair or a hand with a naked A/Q of hearts. Are we shoving or checking in this spot? I think if we check he could turn his hand into a bluff on some rivers or call a river bet off with a weaker pair which he won't do if we bet this turn. If we shove I think he folds most of his c/r range once he checks turn.

Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, Rush, 6 Players
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UTG: $12.10 (48.4 bb)
MP: $35.16 (140.6 bb)
CO: $37.59 (150.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): $25.30 (101.2 bb)
SB: $42.55 (170.2 bb)
BB: $25 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
2 folds, CO raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.75, 2 folds, CO calls $1.90

Flop: ($5.85) 5 J 6 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $3.25, CO raises to $6.50, Hero calls $3.25

Turn: ($18.85) 7 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero has $16.05 behind

Well, this is another interesting spot and I'll be watching this to see what everyone else thinks. The minraise looks AJ or set to me, I don't think he has too much naked Qh, but he can certainly be QhQx.

Off the top of my head, I think I make a weak looking bet like about $6 which extracts some value from AhXx and also lets him shove with some illusion of having some fold equity.

Easy turn jam in a 3b pot. Can't imagine him not following through with all hands that beat us.

Originally Posted by griffey24

Easy turn jam in a 3b pot. Can't imagine him not following through with all hands that beat us.

Don't you feel like jamming misses some value from his 1-heart hands that would either call a smaller turn bet or jam over it?

Pretty clear we're ahead here and I just jam it in and hope to get looked up by ace of hearts. Villain has air here so much though that I wouldn't expect to get any extra money the majority of the time on the river, even if we check the turn.

Originally Posted by BorisTheSpider

Don't you feel like jamming misses some value from his 1-heart hands that would either call a smaller turn bet or jam over it?

What one heart hands are gonna jam over a small bet or go for a turn c/c after c/r the flop, that wouldn't just jam the turn themselves?

Originally Posted by griffey24

What one heart hands are gonna jam over a small bet or go for a turn c/c after c/r the flop, that wouldn't just jam the turn themselves?

Well I did think some AhQx and AhKx could raise flop then pretty much give up - I think those hands might sometimes either peel to a smallish turn bet or jam over it if it's small enough to look weak and there's enough behind that they might think they still have some fold equity. I do think those hands are often jamming the turn anyway, but not always, especially since the flop raise was a minraise which suggests a passive player who might minraise a flush draw then just give up, or hope the turn checks through when he bricks. If the CO is a fish, a smallish bet here gets him to peel his flushdraws quite a bit I think whereas if we jam he might find a fold.

cibbing the flop sounds cool. jam turn as played

Nobody is c/min raising AhQ or AhK on the flop (ie: no fold equity) and then deciding to c/f turn when called. They will either jam, or they have some hand like AJ/AhJ/QQ or something else that is c/c turn.