[5NL] 54s...attempted steal...river a straight...wtf?

3x on the button seems like overkill. 2x or 2.5x seem reasonable.

2x has to work 57% of the time.
2.5 has to work 62.5% of the time
3x has to work 67% of the time.

I don't think the number of folds you will get with 3x over 2.5x warrants risking 0.5 more each time. Also you will get 3b bigger and you will have to 4b bluff bigger now as well.

As for the hand, seems like a very easy river b/f. Nobody is assuming you have a straight, people ARE assuming you can have a flush, so you have waay the bottom of your perceived range here.

Originally Posted by griffey24

I don't think the number of folds you will get with 3x over 2.5x warrants risking 0.5 more each time. Also you will get 3b bigger and you will have to 4b bluff bigger now as well.

We're rarely getting 3b light here and we're NEVER 4b bluffing. Also, we're not really going for a pure steal with most of our range. 3x's is absolutely fine with two fish in the blinds. because we shouldn't be opening anything much worse than 54s anyway. Most of our range is 98o+ type stuff and we want to punish them as much as possible for calling light preflop when they're out of position with a range that's no better than ours.

If it's two nits in the blinds, then obviously min open ATC.