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25nl Zoom: 3bp flop top top line check - jam river?

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    Default 25nl Zoom: 3bp flop top top line check - jam river?

    Villain looks like a weird reg type over 100 hands at 26/16 with 10% 3bet. This is the first time he’s 3bet a steal from 9 opportunities.

    Pre- seems standard?

    Flop check back okay? I’d expect KK+ to bet flop, meaning villain is likely AK, Ax JJ and other bluffs that hate the Qhigh flop. He also has the one combo of QQ and potentially 3 combos of TT that crush us ofc. Checking means we can induce turn and river bluffs and it’s only really Kx that we hate to see on the turn or river?

    Turn call standard?

    Jam river for thin value, or do we think villain can only call with butchered QQ/TT and a handful of back door flushes?

    PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

    Button ($180.13)
    SB ($30.58)
    BB ($14.01)
    UTG ($31.68)
    MP ($100.09)
    Hero (CO) ($27.91)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A, Q
    2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, SB raises to $2.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.75

    Flop: ($5.25) 10, Q, 7 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($5.25) 4 (2 players)
    SB bets $3, Hero calls $3

    River: ($11.25) A (2 players)
    SB bets $6, Hero????
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    Pre looks good.

    I'm betting flop to get called by plenty of draws, some pocket pairs, worse Qx and some Tx.

    As played, jamming river is only getting called by better hands I think. But I miss loads of value in spots like this so interested to see what other people say.
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  3. #3
    I'm betting flop all day.

    As played, jamming might be overkill on river, but there's certainly value in going at least $13-15ish. His sizing feels more like AK/AJ than anything.
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    hate the river. i am not objective now, i'd just call/ got into too many straight /flushes in this kind of spot.
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  5. #5
    I will bet the flop if we played on standard cash game table, but on Zoom I will probably played the same (check the flop). About the river I think that you only have to call, because like Razvan said there is an opportunity to he has made straight or flush.
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    I highly doubt he's checking KJ on the flop.

    Flush is possible, but his rivier sizing has got to discount that somewhat. If I were to guess his hand I'd say 75% AJ/AK and 25% flush.

    I don't hate a call, it's definitely lower variance. You just have to think of how many combos of hands he might call that are worse. Just because he CAN have better doesn't in itself merit not raising.
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    if we do raise,what worse is calling? AT seems the only. if he does call w/ worse then he's very bad.
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    Would you bluff here? Because based on his sizing and your assumption that nothing worse than AT calls, we should be rampant bluffing since my perception is that he has mostly Ax.

    OP can tell me if my sizing reads are right and what that means for his range.
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    What would be if the villain has a set of something (like tens or queens). For that reason I think is better to not risk with raise here, for me will be better if we only make a call.
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    will not bluff very often vs unknowns since we repp only a few hands when we have this line.
    our line looks like KJ/AT/ all the 57ss+ combos and some AQ that didnt bet flop(like now) when we raise river.
    his line is weird also, AA/QQ/TT/QT/KJ/AK/AJ all should have bet the flop. dont know what range to give him here.
    doesnt feel right to raise w/ no info and prob i am worried nit be blown off by him shoving since i would fold most times top2 w/ no reads.
    like you said/ i prefer the lower variance side.
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    I would call in this situation. His bet sizing is making me to limit him to KT/JT/KQ/AX.

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