300bb deep, OOP, bloated pot - flop goes crazy

Preflop looks OK to me but you could raise bigger seeing as how there are already 3 people in the pot, 3x+1 would be $1.50. I don't like betting so big on the flop because I think you can scare away a lot of hands that might otherwise call. I mean, we got our flop and we want to get all-in but we don't have to do it all at once.

Folding here is reasonable like Pelion said because you are deep with MP who seems happy with his hand and we only have one pair that is unlikely to improve. I think it's also fine to just go with it though. I say that because I've seen SB do the flop shove in a huge pot with a weak ace. But that was on Bovada aka 'the fish tank'. If MP was not in the hand I'd always call SB. I think MP is at least as likely to have a draw as a set after this action. So I like going with it.

TBH my thought process here would be "10nl, huge 3bet pot, tptk, all the way" and if it's a set that's a cooler.

edit: IDK maybe that's really stupid. I would definitely be tilted if I lost 3 bi on a single hand. Another possibility, because you are deep with MP, is to not 3bet AK. Play it as the ultimate connector (even tho it's not a great connector) and pot control any one pair hands from the get go. Against better players I think that's the way to go when super deep. At 10nl though I think you have to go with it. Going with tptk is consistent with the 3bet anyhow, and even though you could definitely get coolered, you're never doing that bad here. But take a break if you lose this hand regardless.

Originally Posted by abelardx

Preflop looks OK to me but you could raise bigger seeing as how there are already 3 people in the pot, 3x+1 would be $1.50.

Yeah, agreed - preflop is awful. I need to be more systematic about my preflop sizing in multiway spots like this, and I need to feel happier about just taking it down pre - I often size smaller than I should because I don't want everyone to just fold pre, but actually, especially with AK, that's an entirely desirable outcome, and the pot is already a nice size pre so I should just bet bigger, have more chance to isolate and have more chance to just take it down pre.

I don't like betting so big on the flop because I think you can scare away a lot of hands that might otherwise call.

Hmm, I agree to an extent, my concern is that if I bet say $3 and MP calls then the SB will be getting 11 to 3 on a call, so I don't like to give those odds, but my actual sizing doesn't exactly make the price _much_ worse (he still gets over 3:1). I also feel like if I bet smaller, I still get 3:1 if the SB jams, which makes it tough to fold and I have MP still to act behind me - that said, if I then call the SBs jam and MP comes over the top, I have a little more left behind and it's marginally easier to see folding in that situation.

I mean, we got our flop and we want to get all-in but we don't have to do it all at once.

I'm glad you edited your post later - I really think trying to get all-in, even in a bloated pot, with 300bb behind would be a huge mistake here. We might end up getting all-in when the kind of shit that happened on the flop happens, but I don't think it should be the plan, however, the bloated size of the pot and being OOP makes it a really tough spot because any kind of meaningful flop bet sets us up for a huge turn pot then we either have to commit to getting it in or just fold, because we really can't bet (or c/c) the turn without being OK with calling a lot of safe looking rivers.

TBH my thought process here would be "10nl, huge 3bet pot, tptk, all the way" and if it's a set that's a cooler.

That seems fine 100bb deep, maybe even like 130bb, but this deep I don't feel like getting stacked by a set can be thought of as a cooler. I mean, yeah, it seems a somewhat unlikely flop for MP to flat a set on, but we know nothing about him yet.

Another possibility, because you are deep with MP, is to not 3bet AK.

That does actually seem reasonable occasionally if, as you said, we play it like a connector and don't get overcommited to a one pair hand. I'm not sure what other people think of flatting here, but by default I prefer to isolate or take it down pre.

Going with tptk is consistent with the 3bet anyhow

This deep, I disagree.