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 Originally Posted by griffey24
Why is jamming the only option here?
I would just go with your feel vs SB. It sounds like MP is somewhat of a fish (playing every hand so far), so he likely has Ax or some draw. If he's fishy could even be some lame draw, gutter or something.
I think you misread it - it's the first type MP _hasn't_ folded pre in 5 hands, so as far as we know so far, he's unlikely to be a huge fish.
If you think you're crushed by SB, then I suppose you could fold, but I'd rather iso vs SB and approx. min re-raise to like $17.75 or so. If somehow MP comes back over the top, it's conceivable I could find a fold despite the amazing odds we'd be getting, given how dead we're likely drawing.
Hmm, perhaps I should think about this, I felt like firstly any raise less than jamming was too small to isolate because of the hugeness of the pot at this point, and also, I didn't really think I could find a fold getting such odds if MP jams, but as you said if he does, we're likely drawing wafer thin.
What's this talk about folding out better? Of course we're never folding out better, but we're NOT bluffing. We're value-raising.
Readless, I'm not sure I can value raise here - the pot is 250bb and I'd be expecting MP to call another 180bb with worse. Maybe I'm being too pessimistic, but it doesn't look to me like I can value raise.
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