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3b JJ, facing flop c-raise from unknown

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  1. #1
    I know everyone's gonna hate this answer because omg vulnerable hand get it in or fold! But I would flat here. It is very obvious what cards we don't like (except for Js, which we block half of and gives us redraw outs anyway, and A is a bit of a sigh), and we can get away from those 12 cards while rarely making a mistake. Sure, we lose the chance at his extra $13.70 on any turn T or higher, but the fact that 1) He gets the money in much more on a safe turn then he does to a 3b shove (in itself makes up for much of the value lost on broadways), 2) we save ourselves half our stack on a bad turn, and 3) we get the money with 8%-ish more equity, which translates into a lot of eV.
  2. #2
    I'm assuming villain is a fish based on non full stack and cold call of 3-bet. That's enough info to make him something more than an unknown imo. I'd be surprised to see anyone who raises 99-TT A8s etc here fold to a flop jam so think that if we're planning on not folding then flop is the place to get the rest in. 6, T, 9, Q, K, A turns happen frequently and defo hurt us by either improving him (yet it's still a guessing game when he ships, with this much already invested folding is bleh on many of these) or by making him reluctant to stack off with worse. I play the same but I'm not thrilled about it, nevertheless given villain is likely bad I'm not folding JJ here, this is the worst hand I'd felt though.
    Last edited by Carroters; 07-19-2013 at 07:57 PM.

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