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  1. #1

    Default AK tptk 5nl zoom

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    Button ($8.37)
    SB ($8.39)
    BB ($9.33)
    UTG ($9.59)
    MP ($6.19)
    Hero (CO) ($5)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K, A
    UTG raises to $0.15, MP calls $0.15, Hero raises to $0.55, 2 folds, BB calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP calls $0.40

    Flop: ($1.82) 5, 9, A (3 players)
    BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($1.82) Q (3 players)
    BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $1.05, 1 fold, MP raises to $2.50, Hero ???

    bb is a fish, MP is unknown

    Pre is my standard in position ISO size vs raise + call. I'm far from balanced here, I pretty much have QQ+ AK vs an utg open and utg+1 call vs unknowns, but obv I don't expect these guys to know that.

    Flop I check back because this is a dry flop and I hope to induce a bluff on the turn. I expect a lot of folds on this flop when I do cbet, whereas a delayed cbet should expect to get called by pocket pairs more often.

    Turn I bet smallish and now I get raised. All three options seem to be on the table.

    Is flop check bad? Is my turn sizing ok? What now?
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    I think the flop check is pretty horrible when there are plenty of Ax hands in villains ranges which they aren't folding and you think the bb is a fish so will no doubt call with loads of pps anyway.

    At 5nlz you're usually pretty dead here, don't really see people raising fd/sds in this situation and AQ, 55 and 99 are all in villains range. As I don't think villain has all that many draws in this spot after he raises. I think with the price you are getting calling is definitely the best option at this point.
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    pre looks good
    flop check does not look good. MP has AQ/AJs/99-QQ in his range and i'd back an unknown a pretty good chance to call the flop with things like JJ here. BB can call all sorts of shit.
    fold to the turn check-raise and i don't think it's close - have you seen many unknowns check-raise the turn or river as a bluff into a player repping strength?
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    I don't necessarily have a problem with the flop check since we're in position. That means a check is going to be worth a lot more than it would be if we were even second to act. There is an argument that something like a K or Q or J on the turn might keep us from getting a bet from certain pocket pairs, but that doesn't happen all that often, so the value we lose is pretty small. The chance of picking up a bet on the turn from a hand we wouldn't normally get a bet from, however, seems to more than cover that small loss.
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    I also figure that if I'm up against smaller Ax, I usually only get two streets of value anyway, because if I get called twice on this board, I think I check back river pretty often, fearing aces up or a slow played set. I feel like triple barreling tptk vs a station is thin here without reads.

    As for how often I see bluffs here, idk, because I'd normally fold this spot. But I feel like my range is weak from villain's pov, I'm not sure I rep strength. He's gonna think I've got TT-AA, and I have TT/JJ/KK way more often than QQ/AA. So this wouldn't be a bad bluffing spot for him, especially if he's picked up equity on the turn. Furthermore, this bet feels weird because he's checked twice. If I checked Axx flop after 3betting, what makes him think I bet turn? Why wouldn't he start betting if he has a bigger piece of this than I do? He's prepared to let this turn check through 3handed with a set or AQ? Not a chance. His range isn't exactly strong here, imo. I think he has Ax, semibluffs and bluffs.

    Hand continues...

    Hero goes all in, villain folds.

    I insta regretted shoving but I'd used so much time to decide his range was weak that I was rushed. I think I should call to keep his bluffs in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Hand continues...

    Hero goes all in, villain folds.
    lol he needs 18% or something.
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    Yeah I expected him to call everything except pure bluffs. But then again he gets the same stuff in on river when I just call turn, except sometimes he might find a shove himself with his air, hence the turn shove being a mistake imo.
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