BUT WHAT'S YOUR RANGE

Originally Posted by ImSavy

edit - I actually think if you look back at the thread that boris made recently about starting ranges and flops etc. You'll see that the point that I was trying to make was that his default range was quite good for what it was there to do, but from a balance point of view it was crap. What he'd done is come up with an exploitative range, but he didn't seem to realise this. So as soon as you start playing that range as default against someone good they'll tear you apart and it leaves us not understanding why.

So not being aware of what an actually well balanced range should look like and how we should play it can have a serious detriment to our game when we are playing against good players. So at no point was I attempting to say you should be using a balanced range, but it's really fucking helpful to know what one looks like for lots of reasons.

thats not the point that carroters is making though. At 5nl you shouldn't be looking to play optimally against the good players. If your table(s) are full of good players your table selection is shit . Get the hell off those tables and find the fish. Thats where your easy profits will come from and get you out of 5nl quicker.

Originally Posted by Keith

thats not the point that carroters is making though. At 5nl you shouldn't be looking to play optimally against the good players. If your table(s) are full of good players your table selection is shit . Get the hell off those tables and find the fish. Thats where your easy profits will come from and get you out of 5nl quicker.

There are no good players at 5NL. (except me)

And that's really not what my post was about, but ye I agree with your post 100%.

There's of course nothing wrong with knowing what a balanced range looks like. If people can't form good exploitative ranges and know how to exploit the mistakes their microstakes opponents (regs included) are making then working on their thought process and determining what factors are important to the situation is going to be more important.

FWIW micro regs etc who have giant holes in their game don't have these solely or even mainly due to being unbalanced. Rather they just make lots and lots of mistakes in their reasoning/thinking. If we don't make these mistakes we just beat them easily with no need for understanding balance to any high level.