dem 4b pots BVB- flop TP shitty kicker - CB and get RR for dem stackz

Oh yeah sorry you didn't donk, I fail too.

So it's a bluff. Cool. What better hands do you figure he's 3betting with that he then goes on to fold? How did you go about putting him on a range to make this determination?

And flop is ridiculously easy fold unless we have reads that he shoves crap like TT here.

Originally Posted by OngBonga

Oh yeah sorry you didn't donk, I fail too.

So it's a bluff. Cool. What better hands do you figure he's 3betting with that he then goes on to fold? How did you go about putting him on a range to make this determination?

And flop is ridiculously easy fold unless we have reads that he shoves crap like TT here.

i obv dont mean to 4bet A9 to get him to fold better hands , rather 4 betting to get him to fold all his 3b bluffing range ( since i don't wanna play A9o here in 3b pot oop) . If he happens to 3b hands like small pairs , some Kx and Qx he doesnt want to call pre , i might actually be ahead but that shouldnt be of any concern cuz he should be folding to my 4b anyways.) Postflop doent make any sense at all to me so i took the safe path and folded but again , why the fuck would u jam better Ax , or any Ax for that matter on this board in a facking 4b pot. it's not like we are in some sick level GTO war. But then again maybe villain is not giving a fuck and fistpumping hard with his AQ and saying Toppair good kicker is the nizzles , i'm all in without understanding he is pushing out all the bluffs i might have in my range. Makes sense?

I'm not villain, so it doesn't matter what I'd do on this flop in villain's shoes. And besides, I might shove this flop with AK if I felt villain would call Ax or flush draw, because AK is next to the nuts in this spot, seeing as the hands beating AK are unlikely to be in your range, with the exception of AA, which is one combo. He probably recognises that he already has maximum value post flop vs your TT-KK, so he might as well target your Ax and hearts.

Just fold pre. Bluffing A9 trying to get his bluffs to fold doesn't seem great to me. There's no reason to think he has any bluffs, he hasn't 3bet yet, despite his aggressive tendancies pre and his big stack. He seems to me to be playing tight aggressive poker, picking off fish who can't fold their top pair hands. If you folded to flop shove, kudos to you for not being heavily exploited by this guy. Hopefully he'll keep on shoving into your bets because eventually he'll shove his tptk into your set. But you still made a mistake, imo, when you 4bet him pre instead of folding. I can make a stand with A9o if he's continually 3betting me, but he isn't, so this one we should respect.