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  1. #1

    Default Fold and forget it ever happened?

    Villain is 24/18, has opened the SB 5 of 6 opportunities I've seen.

    After I raise the flop, then pot the turn, he can't really be C/R the turn with much I beat?

    Combos:

    6 sets we beat
    32 straights that beat us, and 3 sets that beat us

    It sounds really nitty, but I think the turn might be a fold, or maybe flat to see if we can fill up and fold the river unimproved?

    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    BTN: $17.83 (178.3 bb)
    SB: $9 (90 bb)
    Hero (BB): $31.08 (310.8 bb)
    UTG: $38.02 (380.2 bb)
    MP: $11.24 (112.4 bb)
    CO: $6.71 (67.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with T T
    4 folds, SB raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.10

    Flop: ($0.40) 9 5 T (2 players)
    SB bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.60, SB calls $0.40

    Turn: ($1.60) J (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB raises to $3.76
    Last edited by BorisTheSpider; 10-31-2013 at 02:38 AM.
  2. #2
    I like a call and fold if river doesn't pair. We have odds to call if villain has a straight, and I doubt he c/folds if the river pairs the board. If he does have JJ then, oh well, but I think it is compensated by him possibly having 55 and 99 as well.
  3. #3
    Call and evaluate river imo.
  4. #4
    You're giving him 32 straights, so all offsuit hands, but nothing else?

    If he has 32 straights (all 78 and KQ), then he has 9 J9's and 3 JT's. People do dumb things with seemingly good hands, so he could show up with QJ here (12), or KJ (12). Could be bluffing with 89 (12).

    This is the absolute top of your range, other than raising KQ on flop sometimes. I'm not finding a fold here. The only question is call/call or jam to me.

    Seriously - Focus on marginal hands in difficult spots. Worrying about whether your top set got turned by a straight on a coordinated board isn't worth it.

    Board: 9d 5c Th Jd
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 42.528% 42.53% 00.00% 2470 0.00 { TT }
    Hand 1: 57.472% 57.47% 00.00% 3338 0.00 { KQs, J9s+, 87s, KQo, J9o+, 87o }
    Last edited by griffey24; 10-31-2013 at 07:01 AM.
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  5. #5
    You should also put top pair + draw hands and overpairs in his range. You have to be crushing his range I think. Plus it's blind on blind so he could be fos or think you are.

    edit: and two pair hands
    Last edited by abelardx; 10-31-2013 at 11:11 AM.
  6. #6
    Nice of villain to practically give you the odds to boat up, so definitely not folding. I think I would just jam it in though as we are getting looked up nearly always and I think we're probably doing okay in the context of bvb:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 50.967% 50.68% 00.29% 70289521 399466.00 { TcTs }
    Hand 1: 49.033% 48.75% 00.29% 67608171 399466.00 { JJ+, KQs, QJs, QdTd, JTs, 87s, KQo, QJo, JTo, 87o }
  7. #7
    Folding turn is never an option when we're either miles ahead, or drawing to a monster vs the top of his range.

    He's gonna have a little over $4 if we call turn. We're in this for stacks, either now or on river. Some rivers are awkward for us. I'd just shove now, he can't fold.
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    i thought you said you were a station?

    i'd jam.

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