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  1. #1
    I don’t care if you think I am a fish lol I am a member on pokercoaching.com and I study relentlessly , I’ll take John Littles advice over yours but I do value Mojo and Ongs opinion and others on this forum, I go extremely in depth in hands quite often, I don’t do so every single hand and I don’t think I have to, or if I choose to it doesn’t have to be right away. Also use range analyzer every day over at pokercoaching.com which teaches me how to be balanced and play my entire range of hands from pre flop to river , I own flopzilla where I go through percentages villains holdings and what part of their range I can fold out with specific bet sizings + tons of other stuff, not that I need to even explain myself because as far I am concerened your opinion is not a valued one of mine if your going to come across as a jerk
    Last edited by DonkeyBets; 02-25-2020 at 10:23 AM.
  2. #2
    With a 38bb stack this is a fold pre.

    With a 100bb stack this is a ridiculously easy call pre.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
  3. #3
    The problem we have with this stack is when we flop an ace, we're pot committed before we know we're in trouble, and when we flop a flush draw we can't make marginal calls relying on implied odds, because we don't have any implied odds.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    The problem we have with this stack is when we flop an ace, we're pot committed before we know we're in trouble, and when we flop a flush draw we can't make marginal calls relying on implied odds, because we don't have any implied odds.

    Pot committed what does that actually mean ? For some it’s just an excuse to call off the rest of their stack ,you can make an argument to fold a hand when there is 100$dollars in a pot on a river where you have to either call your last two dollars or fold and if you know you are beat you can literally fold and save your 2 bucks . I think I know what your trying to say but we arnt pot committed by calling 1bb. If I flopped an ace it wasn’t a green light to put the rest of my stack in the middle
  5. #5
    By the way donkeybets, keith is better than me and mojo. I'm glad you value our comments, but don't be so quick to dismiss keith's opinion just because he's blunt and thinks you're a fish. Try and understand where he's coming from, you'll get more from him that way.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    By the way donkeybets, keith is better than me and mojo. I'm glad you value our comments, but don't be so quick to dismiss keith's opinion just because he's blunt and thinks you're a fish. Try and understand where he's coming from, you'll get more from him that way.

    That’s nice, doesn’t mean I have to to accept his opinions, he’s not being blunt he’s being jerk. I’ve heard of Daniel Negreanu and Phil Ivey what’s Keith’s full name maybe I’ve seen him on tv. I think you guys play too tight if your folding A8s here I have a book by Jonathan Little his book says can call here with my 38bb, I think you guys are the minority if you think folding pre is an option there 19c in the pot I have to call 2c with A8dd to see a flop lol.
    Last edited by DonkeyBets; 02-25-2020 at 11:23 AM.
  7. #7
    The reason I think this is a fold pre flop is because we can't win massive pots. We can easily lose our stack with top pair, and the flushes we make are not enough compensation for the times we are dominated. When we're full stacked, it's not so easy to lose your stack with a bad top pair, but you do increase the potential size of the pots you win when your flush comes good.

    We do have great pot odds, but this is about implied odds vs reverse implied odds.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong

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