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  1. #1

    Default tt oop on straightening board

    Merge - $0.04 NL - Holdem - 8 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    CO: 82.25 BB (VPIP: 15.88, PFR: 9.67, 3Bet Preflop: 2.61, Hands: 799)
    BTN: 83.5 BB (VPIP: 24.32, PFR: 13.51, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 37)
    Hero (SB): 161.25 BB
    BB: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 24.43, PFR: 18.56, 3Bet Preflop: 4.89, Hands: 533)
    UTG: 74 BB (VPIP: 22.57, PFR: 3.37, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 541)
    UTG+1: 94.5 BB (VPIP: 17.11, PFR: 13.72, 3Bet Preflop: 6.58, Hands: 689)
    MP: 96.75 BB (VPIP: 22.49, PFR: 16.30, 3Bet Preflop: 6.74, Hands: 554)
    MP+1: 194.25 BB (VPIP: 15.22, PFR: 9.29, 3Bet Preflop: 2.82, Hands: 509)

    Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T

    fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB

    Flop: (9 BB, 3 players) 5 9 8
    Hero bets 6 BB, BB calls 6 BB, MP+1 calls 6 BB

    Turn: (27 BB, 3 players) Q
    Hero checks, BB bets 12.5 BB

    notes on bb:
    didnt cbet aj on axx after opening utg
    [P] Called 2Bet from blinds range {55,AKs,T9o} (4)
    [P] Called 3Bets in position {QQ,55} (2)
    [P] Called 3Bets out of position with {QQ,97s} (2)
    [F] Raised Flop Cbet w/Overpair or less & no draw (1)
    [T] Played turn draw aggressively (1)

    thoughts on how I played the hand? Does opp pretty much always have us beat here, or did I just give up on a good hand?

    the range im giving him for the turn bet is: 99-88,55,Q9s+,JTs,98s,76s,QTo+,JTo
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  2. #2
    I don't like the flop donk. I think your range for his turn bet is all wrong because of that - the flop donk followed by checking the turn could well induce a bet from a lot more than you think.
  3. #3
    Yeah I don't like the flop donk either.

    Any FT3B stats for MP+1?

    Also you can discount a lot of JT straights as you hold TT.
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  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra_1878 View Post
    Yeah I don't like the flop donk either.

    Any FT3B stats for MP+1?

    Also you can discount a lot of JT straights as you hold TT.
    do you mean flop or preflop? pre its 43% (6/13), flop its 100% (1/1)

    so are you guys just recommending c/c-ing the flop, or c/r?
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  5. #5
    I think c/c the flop is prob the best option.
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  6. #6
    Yeah, c/c flop looks best - c/r is too thin with such a small overpair, it over-reps your hand and you can't get called by much worse. You can c/r flop with QQ for example, because more worse hands can call (although I still think it'd be a bit of a strong line to take), but I don't think you can c/r profitably with TT here.
  7. #7
    thanks for the input guys
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    I think flop donk bet/fold is cool but I make it bigger. Fold turn I guess his bet into 2 is unlikely to be 9x
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    I think after betting the flop I would have followed up and bet the turn to try and find out a bit more information about where I stood. There are a few potential hands out there and checking the turn created the chance for the others to see the River for free.
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  10. #10
    With TT and these stacks I'm almost tempted to triple barrel here with a very big bet / overbet on the river which would put a ton of pressure on their entire range.

    It would be a pretty merged play, cause it's possible we're ahead of some turn calling range (9x, J9, T9) but also behind some of the turn calling range (Q9, QJ, QT). Either way, blocking the nuts is pretty sweet.

    As played meh c/f.
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