$109: Playing the player

Well UTG doubled up on a BB special by aggressively betting out his two pair, but other than that no reads.

Is there an optimum way to try and take this hand or is it a lost cause?

Edit: Lemme elaborate. So this is probably the 2nd hand I've raised all SnG. I get a limp/call preflop and a check/call on a blank flop. I'm figuring a pair of tens, a PP, or a flush draw at the minimum.

King of spades comes on the turn. Scare card for me, but can it be scarier for him if I fire on the turn as well?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO (t1345)
Button (t4315)
SB (t575)
BB (t2910)
UTG (t2940)
daluchy (t1415)

Preflop: daluchy is MP with A, Q.
UTG calls t50, daluchy raises to t200, 4 folds, UTG calls t150.

Flop: (t475) 4, T, 6 (2 players)
UTG checks, daluchy bets t275, UTG calls t275.

Turn: (t1025) K (2 players)
UTG checks

Your hand is easier to play when you actually bet the flop. I'd bet t350 or so, and be done with it if unimproved. I'll come back with more thoughts later.

I check behind

Originally Posted by daluchy

CO (t1345)
Button (t4315)
SB (t575)
BB (t2910)
UTG (t2940)
daluchy (t1415)

betting out the turn hmm.

200 pf,275 flop!! left with 940 in a 1025 pot......i would give up on the turn here. to much commitment!!!

what hands are you beating here that would limp then call your pr raise.

PP 22-JJ yes slighly loose-passive but for arguements sake.
Any 2 face cards siuted/unsuited.

flop action calling your bet his hands narrow to say:
PP 44,66,TT plus maybe 77,88,99. i doubt any other PP are involved now. saying that JJ would of reraised your c/b.
Face cards like: ATto,KTo,JTo.....more suited combinations then A8+,JT+,QJ+,KT+.

wow thats a lot of shite your behind.

if he has a flush a check on the turn is okay.
trips wont fold and he is slowplaying you.
K+T now on board which match many combos of face cards
i think your only beating lower PP then 99. JJ may fold.

i think the Suited K is defo scarier for you than him. i check and if i hit anything unless the straight i check if checked to me.

Turn: (t1025) K (2 players)
UTG checks, daluchy checks.

River: (t1025) 8 (2 players)
UTG checks

Okay so I've been checked to on every street and I only can win this by bluffing the river. How does firing on the river sound?

Originally Posted by daluchy

Turn: (t1025) K (2 players)
UTG checks, daluchy checks.

River: (t1025) 8 (2 players)
UTG checks

Okay so I've been checked to on every street and I only can win this by bluffing the river. How does firing on the river sound?

hmm he doesnt have a flush or King id say or even trips. id say he has the PP i mentioned and maybe pair of T. he has been very weak so i think we should bet as we will lose if we dont. problem is how much of our 940 do we add to the 1025. poxy a small bet would smell of a steal i think as opposed to post oak bluff stuff. allin will proably be good as i doubt he hit this hard.

some may like to check here but i feel we will lose next to most of the time.

I would have bet the turn. The fold equity benefit is too great.

Originally Posted by Rondavu

I would have bet the turn. The fold equity benefit is too great.

i dont like it, bet makes you commited and board is scary. couldnt be ahead often enough to profit.

i listed further up that there are few hands that we are ahead of on the turn.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

Originally Posted by Rondavu

I would have bet the turn. The fold equity benefit is too great.

i dont like it, bet makes you commited and board is scary. couldnt be ahead often enough to profit.

i listed further up that there are few hands that we are ahead of on the turn.

You're not betting the turn because you have the best hand. You're betting it because you don't think he has enough of a hand to call. If opp has no K, then he can easily put us on a K or on the flush after a semi-bluff. There are a lot of hands that fold here because they think they are beat even when they really aren't. That's what Rondavu meant when he said the FE benefit of betting the turn is great.

Originally Posted by JeffreyGB

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

Originally Posted by Rondavu

I would have bet the turn. The fold equity benefit is too great.

i dont like it, bet makes you commited and board is scary. couldnt be ahead often enough to profit.

i listed further up that there are few hands that we are ahead of on the turn.

You're not betting the turn because you have the best hand. You're betting it because you don't think he has enough of a hand to call. If opp has no K, then he can easily put us on a K or on the flush after a semi-bluff. There are a lot of hands that fold here because they think they are beat even when they really aren't. That's what Rondavu meant when he said the FE benefit of betting the turn is great.

im understand what your saying. i guess im being too pessimistic and perhaps maybe unrealistic that hands worse than K or flush wont fold plus with the fact you are representing them.

Originally Posted by JeffreyGB

You're not betting the turn because you have the best hand. You're betting it because you don't think he has enough of a hand to call.

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