This kind of makes me curious about what 3bet/4bet situations are considered normal nowadays. If someone 3bets light and gets 4bet to less than 2x, are they folding? What's the smallest 4bet you can make here (i forgot)?

With 88 (and with most hands considering how shallow the stacks are) I don't see the reason for 4betting less than all-in. I don't want to induce anyone to 5bet bluff shove overs on me when I have 8s.

Not a smart flat of the 3bet. You'll only have 2x pot behind and its going to tough to know what to do on almost every flop. On the river I think villain is either going to call a raise or not...it doesn't matter so much if you make it 18k vs 35k. Shove