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  1. #1

    Default Ace high flop with cowboys

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    UTG+1 (t975)
    MP1 (t1149)
    MP2 (t1130)
    MP3 (t1050)
    CO (t1295)
    Button (t1600)
    SB (t1255)
    Hero (t795)
    UTG (t751)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K.
    6 folds, Button calls t30, SB completes, Hero raises to t99, Button folds, SB calls t69.

    Flop: (t228) Q, 5, A (2 players)
    SB bets t500, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: t728

    thoughts?
  2. #2
    he massively overbets the pot with a flush draw on the board. I say he hit his set.

    on second thought
    he also calls the raise preflop, so he might have 2 pair (Aces and Queens), and is afraid of the flush draw. AA and QQ would have reraised.
  3. #3
    I agree. I think he had AJ or AT. AK or AQ would have raised preflop 90% of the time, unless he had been playing very unorthodox poker. I agree that the hearts scared him. He definately had the best hand post flop and didn't want to see another card.

    If he paired the Q only he may have thrown 75-100 chip continuation bet, but he wouldn't have committed that hard because he had to at least consider that you had an Ace. He may have had AK or AQ, but I think he would have raised it preflop. Any decent pocket pair would have beeen a compulsory reraise preflop and no 500 bet after an AQ high flop like that. Alternately he might have had 55, but that's a raising hand from the SB also, because any 3 cards on the flop would probably be overcards, and why let the BB limp in with any 2 cards?

    Good fold! You played the hand right and cut loose the KK when they were beat (you didn't have two Kings of Hearts right? lol)
  4. #4
    I think stakes mean a lot here and I know you're not playing 5.50.

    To be honest, I'm kind of confused by his play. If he hit AQ or a set, I think most players would check to you, you repped the hand preflop, you're going to make a follow up bet... and if you have AK he's a good favorite to take your stack if he lets you make a follow up bet. On the other hand, if you had AK and he bet 500, you're probably gonna lay it down. Hell I'd at least try and sell a post oak bluff to try and get you to come over the top... that bet is really strange.

    Even on flush draw heads up you're likely going to make a follow up on semi-bluff to steal the pot and hide the hand with a whole hatful of outs if you fail so pushing out the flush is odd.

    To be honest that's a real hard read, he's either a real bad player playing a set or a bad or decent player playing a scared hand like A2, A10 JJ or KQ. Either way, he's commited himself enough I don't think he's going to lay it down either way A2, A10 and the like are coming with. Don't think I'm going to risk my stack on it on a 3x bb raised pot, kings or no. I'd say you're winning or might be able to force a lay down with a smaller bet, but as Brunson said, "Ain't nothing worse than a poker player going broke in a nothing pot" so that's a pretty easy laydown.
  5. #5
    Ha, a raise to 99. Is that the old 99 cent store trick or just a coincidence?

    It's fine. From here there's no real reason to believe you played it wrong.
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    To be honest, I'm kind of confused by his play. If he hit AQ or a set, I think most players would check to you
    Slow playing 2 pair or a set is bad here. He just completed preflop, so I doubt he had AA or QQ. 55 or two pair would be my guess, given the flush draw and a potiental broadway straight, I probably wouldnt slow play, betting into a preflop aggressor with a big hand is kinda fun anyways There are several possible holdings, but I think about all of them beat you.
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    I like the fold but do think that it's not a big margin between folding and pushing. I think you're ahead here around 40% of the time, the other 60% he has the ace. Hubris' quote from Doyle is perfect in this situation.
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    I disagree, at the stakes Aces plays at, hes probably behind a lot more. So if you are only gonna win this 40% of the time, why the push?
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    I wasn't saying he should push because we both agree that he's behind here more often than not, but that would be the only other play besides folding due to the stack sizes. A call would leave ~200 chips, so if you were going to play, get it all in there. I still like the fold on paper. With reads, I might've called but I would've needed a very good line on that player.
  10. #10
    I gotcha, dig...
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  11. #11
    At a $5 SNG he could have almost anything from low set to any two hearts, but you have to figure he probably has at least Ax. Still lots of time, no choice really but to fold.

    Edit: Must have looked at too many posts yesterday, don't know why I figured it was a fiver. Absent a good ready, I still fold though.
  12. #12
    I hardly doubt this is a $5 SnG.
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  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by ihategnomes
    I hardly doubt this is a $5 SnG.
    I'd bet five that it wasn't :P
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