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Condolences dude, you unfortunately hit the 1-5% chance of hitting those hands and loseing on them.

I think to get over this the only thing you can do is get back in the saddle and win yourself a seat in the WPT or something and when you do, you have to wear some FTR gear when you play.

Look forwards, at least its an expensive lesson learned. If you are in that position again you will know how importnant it is to protect your chips and not go up against the next big stack from experiance.


So allthough this was a bad thing that happened to you, its a poker experiance a lot of people have never had and will someway down the line. So you could say you are ahead

Hope this shines a new light on it for you.

I too had a very similar thing happen a "choke on my part" on Paradise in WSOP Qualifier. I was 2nd in chips with four people left, and this was in late March when they were giving out 2 seats a night. I am thinking I am going to the WSOP!!! "You got to be kidding me!" To my right is the all in maniac. He was in third behind me by about 40000 chips. He was going all in just about every time he was on the button or small blind. When I catch KQ suited on the small blind, for the fourth straight hand he goes all in, I am stupid enough to think "I 'm calling this time" "I'll double up and cruise to the WSOP" He turns over a pair of 7's. I catch nothing and I am out a couple of hands later because of the blinds. I definiately learned a huge lesson about playing short handed when the stakes are big. Of course I ALREADY knew this. You can go all-in in with KQs if you are the one going all-in first but when the you have to call and the stakes are $12000 and 4th is $53, that is the stupidest mistake you can make. A pair has a made hand, you are trying to make a hand. I realize that it was a coin flip, and I knew this when I went all in. But you should never risk $11947 on a coin flip if there is chance that you could make the odds much better than 50/50. I know exactly how you feel. The tournament ended about 2am. I couldn't sleep the entire night, just thinking "what was I thinking" "Im a much better player than this" I felt like the Buffalo Bills when the field goal misses again in the Super Bowl. I was close to just start balling. 8( The only thing that you can say is that you hope you will make better decisions next time. That is hard because making it that far into a tournament like that is far from easy. If you have made it that far though it will happen again. The worst thing about mine was that the night before 4th got $3000 and I got $53 and yes it cost me $50 to play. I won $3 coming in 4th out of about 400 people. Good Luck next time!

Would you actually go and play if you won a seat ? Seems an odd question, but i have a friend who is always telling me to play a Sat. He thinks if i win one, we will be going to Vegas and I will be playing my way to the final table.

The reality is, if I ever played and won a seat. I'd sell it on Ebay for $9000. If I could sell it for that I'd be a happier man than entering a tourney with 450 players. I'd be a 1000 to 1 shot at best. The $10k seat would be sold and I'd be treating my GF to a nice little holiday

I'd also still have the 1-2k in spending money so i might even take a trip over with my friend to play in the side games and watch some WPT / WSOP action.

Now would you really risk that 10k ?

Well on Paradise they "say you have to play you cannot sell or giveaway your seat and must wear complemntary Paradise gear" if you happen to win 2 seats you may give your seat away to another Paradise player. They also credit your account $2000 for airfare, spending, etc. If I could sell it I would. But how cool would be it be to say I played in the WSOP. Even if you got knocked out 1st? Thinking about still makes me want to start balling.

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if you made it that far, you know you can win it. don't let it mess with your head and start playing scared.

look at it this way: you did way more "right" than "wrong" - so you've just got a couple of things to fix.

get back out there and kick some ass!

come on, where's the rippy that we've come to love that gets people to fold with top pair when you've 84 off suit!

Too much of a crapshoot. Heck, I don't play many tournies or even SnGs for that reason, and when I do I don't consider them +EV. I went on about this in a previous post...

In a Cardplayer Ace speaks column he said something like "Most of the good tournament players I know are broke and the cash players aren't, hmmmm..."

Howard Lederer, Nymen the Master, TJ, Phil Hellmouth, Gus, etc. have enough money. I don't feel any compelling reason to donate more EV to them.

Find horrible players, seek and destroy.

feel your pain man, just learn from it so next time youll make it

im sure if someone plays stritctly tournaments only, its going to be very tough to be profitable, but lets be serious, Lederer and others make most of their cash from side games not tournaments. Except maybe T.J. Cloutier, that guy just won another W.S.O.P. bracelet yesterday, hes extremely good at tournaments.

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well if youre on those tournament leader boards, then you must have some skill for these tournaments, you play on party poker mostly right?

Originally Posted by Ripptyde

LoL Fishstick

(weak bluffs always get called...once in a while you have to grab your balls if you want to take down that huge pot)

so true, however going all in on a pure bluff and getting called is one of the worst feelings

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Ripptyde is my hero.

what's the format for paradise sng's? I think poker stars has the best format i've seen, even though they last a little longer than most sng's, the end doesn't become an all in fest if too many people stay in.

Originally Posted by Ripptyde

thats 7 minis today....4 wins and 2 second places...I'm up about 400 bucks today 8)

that's it, im going to view you play an sng 8)

Originally Posted by Ragingguitarist18

I think poker stars has the best format i've seen, even though they last a little longer than most sng's, the end doesn't become an all in fest if too many people stay in.

From the little I tried this weekend, PokerStars' SNGs definitely last longer than those at PartyPoker. I made it to heads-up in one 10+1 that I played, and by the time we finished, it had taken 1.5 hours. The average seems to be 1 to 1.5 hours. This is a 9-player SNG compared to a 10-player SNG at PartyPoker, which average about 45 min to 1 hour.

So far, the SNG players at PokerStars seem much tighter and take their time making their decisions.

I want to see Ripptyde on TV. That would be swank.

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All tournament-related discussions should go in the Tournament Tactics forum. Thank you.


(You're still my hero, Ripp.)

Originally Posted by Xianti

So far, the SNG players at PokerStars seem much tighter and take their time making their decisions.

That might be part of Ripptyde's success. More players aware of where the fold button is...

I wouldn't be surprised if his win rate dropped at Party if he didn't adjust.

ripptyde on tv with a flopturnriver t-shirt 8)

Originally Posted by Fnord

Originally Posted by Xianti

So far, the SNG players at PokerStars seem much tighter and take their time making their decisions.

That might be part of Ripptyde's success. More players aware of where the fold button is...

True. Though Ripptyde plays at Paradise (as opposed to PokerStars), you might be on to something, Fnord. From what I've been reading, PartyPoker has the loosest players of the big online pokerrooms.

Originally Posted by Ragingguitarist18

ripptyde on tv with a flopturnriver t-shirt 8)

This would make Xianti a very, very happy camper.

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Originally Posted by Ripptyde

Xianti if I didn't know you were bustin my balls I'd say thanks...LoL I know I'm not your hero...hehe

Quite the contrary, Ripp. I'm being sincere.

You and strangebird (along with the tournament stories/insights you've shared) are the ones that inspired me to finally start playing online tourneys myself.

You, Ripptyde, have a knack for performing very well in multi-table tourneys, and strangebird has been doing very well in SNG tourneys.


Ripptyde and strangebird: FTR's tourney heroes.

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Originally Posted by Ripptyde

The S&G's are actually literally 'sit and go''s...meaning you can sit down with real money...and play only 1 or 2 hands if you want to and then get out...hence the name

You can LEAVE the sit-n-go tourneys before the tourney is finished?

At PokerStars, the 9-player single-table and 18-player 2-table tourneys are under a tournament tab labeled "Sit-and-Go," and I've yet to see any player leave the table before losing all his chips.

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SNGs = Minis. I've read an SnG described as "a tournement with a preset number of players which when reached starts the tournement".

I think you are mixing SnGs up with the regular ring games. . .

Sounds to me like a matter of verbage usage. Party Poker, Empire Poker and Ultimate Bet all call their "buy-in for poker chips"-type tournaments where there are 10-players "Sit 'n' Go's". Sounds like Paradise calls this type of format "mini's".

Does that sound right, ripptyde?

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I play most of my mini tournaments at Party Poker and Poker Room. You need to play very different at both sites.

At party poker the tables are very loose. It's unbelievable what people raise and call with. You need to have big balls to be a consistent winner at Party Poker.

Now at Poker Room It's completely the opposite. People play very tight and by the book. It's a lot easier to steel blinds and bluff at Poker Room. But if you get someone raising you get out. They usually have a hand.

I'm still not sure which one I like better. If I am having a bad day at Party Poker Room I switch to Poker Room.

I have played a little at Ultimate Bet and Poker Stars, But not enough to comment on.

I would like to play at Paradise like Ripptyde, but the software is too CPU intensive. I run virtual pc on my mac to play and Paradise just kills it. Actually thats the main reason I tried Poker Room. It's java based and runs well on my Mac. Turned out to be a blessing, because I am doing very well there.

I think this discussion of the different styles of play at the different poker rooms cannot be overemphasized.

As I've said in some other posts, about 75% of my bluffs in Party Poker tournaments are called or re-raised, and I have basically giving up on bluffing and blind stealing for this reason. In reading many of Rippy's posts on tournament stories and strategies, I have been absolutely baffled as to how he could have the tournament success he has had with the agressive strategy he uses. Now I understand completely: Rippy doesn't play on Party Poker!

Money-Saving Warning To All FTR Folks: do not follow Rippy's strategy when playing in Party Poker SNG tournaments! Take it from me.

Rip, this is nothing against you. I am in agreement with the FTR community that you're one hell of a tournament player, and I believe its only a matter of time before you're playing on prime time TV. But, I'm sure you won't mind me saying that applying your tactics in a Party Poker 10/1 SNG tourney is pure suicide.

In fact, I would encourage everyone posting tactics, stories, strategies, etc. in this forum to preface every post with what poker room you're playing in.

Originally Posted by TheNatural

As I've said in some other posts, about 75% of my bluffs in Party Poker tournaments are called or re-raised, and I have basically giving up on bluffing and blind stealing for this reason.

Money-Saving Warning To All FTR Folks: do not follow Rippy's strategy when playing in Party Poker SNG tournaments! Take it from me.

i would agree with mr natural 100% on this, however, i'm pretty comfortable with a good semi-bluff in a PP SNG.

e.g. AK PFR 4-5 X BB, get 3 callers, miss the flop (something like 285 rainbow), and it's checked to you - i can usually scoop it with 6-8 X BB bet. if you get called, and the turn's a rag, another bet will usually fold the caller. it's a nice way to pick up 200-300 chips. of course, fold to a reraise.

rippy - you truly are my "tourney aggression" hero - there are times when i know i need to play more aggressively, and i'm trying to work on that.

if fact, you know those "WWJD" (What Would Jesus Do) bracelets? i made one that has "WWRD" (What Would Rippy Do) on it. :P

Originally Posted by fishstick

if fact, you know those "WWJD" (What Would Jesus Do) bracelets? i made one that has "WWRD" (What Would Rippy Do) on it. :P

Awww... no "WWXD" bracelets?

Originally Posted by Xianti

Originally Posted by fishstick

if fact, you know those "WWJD" (What Would Jesus Do) bracelets? i made one that has "WWRD" (What Would Rippy Do) on it. :P

Awww... no "WWXD" bracelets?

ummm, my WWXD bracelet is on the other wrist.

and my WWFD (What Would Fnord Do) just kind of hovers around the room glowing...

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Originally Posted by Ripptyde

LMFAO Fishstick you are a crack up man...LoL

WWRD...lolol

i've got to do something to cheer you up. that way during the FTR tourney, you'll pull one of your over the top raises on 72 when i've made my set.

that's it rippy, feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel beeeeeeeeettttttttttttteeeeeeeerrr...

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We're not letting you off that easy. We heard what you called Fnord the other day and he's really mad about it.

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Originally Posted by heatman

We're not letting you off that easy. We heard what you called Fnord the other day and he's really mad about it.

Don't make me bust you out again