Euro SNG Experiment part 3 discussion thread

[Da GOAT]

Okay same as before. Part 3 should be up in the next 20 minutes.

[taipan168]

Got cut off after Hand 63, I think you hit the post size limit.

[Da GOAT]

its grand ill attach them to next aprt instead, only 3 hands got cut off.

[Random_Hero]

Hand 43.
If this was a normal $5.50 I prob would have knocked out at least 3 (maybe 4) folk out in this hand. most people would have went all-in pre flop, calling reraises etc with J-J, 10-10, A-Q and maybe 9-9 at a normal $5.50.

Hand 53.
Does anyone make the call with A-9s here in my position?

summary.
Up until this point in the game I was getting pretty sh*t cards. with a laggy TLR on my left I didnt want to attempt any blind steals just yet. Stack size is good up until now and dont want to unnecesarilly risk any of it.

[GatorJH]

Hand 31 - Amazing how both of them put TLR on potentially a big hand. That is the difference between playing with people you respect and donks.

Hand 32 - re8, Had that flop hit either of the blinds I don't think they wouldl have tried for anything as tricky as a check/raise. I think you could have taken this down with a bet on the flop.

Hand 34 - Nice thought process Taipan

Hand 38 - Re8, with Triptanes sitting out I am suprised you din't raise with this to take down the blinds.

Hand 40, Tai, nice fold with A8s from EP. Many players would try to limp with this and end up getting in to trouble.

Hand Pantz - I think that would have been a good situation to flat call in (representing a flush draw). If a spade misses the turn Pulp may have taken another stab at it (seeing what he had probably not, but I am trying to not be results oriented) and if a spade does hit you can take it down before a four flush hits on the river.

Hand 43 - WOW!!!! I agree that in a normal SNG Random would have most likely quadrupled up here. A LOT CAN BE LEARNED FROM THE COMMENTS ON THIS HAND!!!!!!

Hand 46 - I can see Pants checking behind here. There are numerous hands in TLR's calling range that include an A or K so it is quite feasible that he was cheking to the pre-flop raiser with the intent of check raising.

Hand 51 - Pretty tight fold Random, but understandable at this table (and possibly saved you a bunch of chips with that board). TLR did the opposite and made a very laggy (and bad IMO) call pre-flop. Pulpstar, nice move going against the grain on this table. Nicely played.

Hand 53 - Random, nice oop fold. In a regular sng I may play here, but not with this table as you are, most likely playing to a nine or flush draw.

Hand 58 - Sig, you HAVE to bet this flop as it is practically the ONLY chance you have of winning this hand.

Hand 62 - Tai, as quiet as you had been lately I think you could have raised here and gotten respect for the raise.

Hand 63 - Pants, you made the right move here folding. Even if you know he is stealing Q6 (even suited) is too weak to push back with.


Final analysis - There has been some REALLY nice play so far. In retrospect I wish I had taken some notes as an observer.

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[Random_Hero]

Hand 51.
If I had been in MP instead of UTG (triptanes was UTG but was sitting out so I was technically UTG ) I prob would have raised.

The blinds were still very small so I thought a laydown was best. turned out to be correct as I would have hit TPTK on flop and would have prob got myself into a lot of trouble.

Also remember Courtiebee speaking about folding A-Q PF in the last experiment. makes sense.

[Pants_101]

Hand Pantz - I think that would have been a good situation to flat call in (representing a flush draw). If a spade misses the turn Pulp may have taken another stab at it (seeing what he had probably not, but I am trying to not be results oriented) and if a spade does hit you can take it down before a four flush hits on the river.

Yes in retrospect I agree with you. I've tried to absorb the things I've been learning on the boards such as bet your hands when you hit as donks will call you down or draw out on you. But here there are no donks so I need to take a few more risks and try to be a bit more tricky post flop to make a few more chips on my hands. The fact I had re-raised a flop previously is obviously not enough to make people suspicious when I do it a second time.

[taipan168]

Hand 62 - Tai, as quiet as you had been lately I think you could have raised here and gotten respect for the raise.

Yeah, in retrospect I should have raised this. In general I don't think I adjusted my game enough for the fact that Trip was sitting out (well, I know of course that I could steal his blind but I don't think I adjusted my effective position at the table enough).

Plus at a "normal" table nobody would really pay attention to the fact that I'd been quiet, at this table every player would have noticed that I'd been pretty tight (wow, I actually had a table image!).

[Da GOAT]

Hand 32 - re8, Had that flop hit either of the blinds I don't think they wouldl have tried for anything as tricky as a check/raise. I think you could have taken this down with a bet on the flop.

Defo should of bet flop, you could be representing a multiple of hands by betting.

Hand Pantz - I think that would have been a good situation to flat call in (representing a flush draw). If a spade misses the turn Pulp may have taken another stab at it (seeing what he had probably not, but I am trying to not be results oriented) and if a spade does hit you can take it down before a four flush hits on the river.

a good point but with pulpstar being quite agg he could potentially be betting his draws. there are both flush and striaght draws here so i actually like the raise from pants

Hand 43 - WOW!!!! I agree that in a normal SNG Random would have most likely quadrupled up here. A LOT CAN BE LEARNED FROM THE COMMENTS ON THIS HAND!!!!!!

lol this hand speaks for itself, a brilliant addition to the game.

Hand 46 - I can see Pants checking behind here. There are numerous hands in TLR's calling range that include an A or K so it is quite feasible that he was cheking to the pre-flop raiser with the intent of check raising.

now i dont get this hand!!! thats a great flop for you Pantz to bet at. you raise SC UTG to randomise your strategy, but the point of doing this is that you represent a very strong hand. this flop suits many strong hand you rep so bet and you should take it down.

Hand 51 - Pretty tight fold Random, but understandable at this table (and possibly saved you a bunch of chips with that board). TLR did the opposite and made a very laggy (and bad IMO) call pre-flop. Pulpstar, nice move going against the grain on this table. Nicely played.

i think its a poor fold by random based on the fact that table is very tight and the opp will respect raises from EP based on their knowledge.

Hand 57-Pantz what is your thinking in limping Q9o here, doesnt seem to be much of a point.

Hand 58 - Sig, you HAVE to bet this flop as it is practically the ONLY chance you have of winning this hand.

i have read you as having nothing when checking the flop. you afraid of opp or something,maybe too much respect.

Hand 62 - Tai, as quiet as you had been lately I think you could have raised here and gotten respect for the raise.

here sigurd folds 33 but with such a tight game id call.

[Sigurd]

Hand 58 - Sig, you HAVE to bet this flop as it is practically the ONLY chance you have of winning this hand.

I have read you as having nothing when checking the flop. you afraid of opp or something,maybe too much respect.

I did have a lot of respect for Taipan. I pretty much gave up the hand when he called my preflop bet.

Hand 62 - Here sigurd folds 33 but with such a tight game id call.

I had a very strong feeling that people wouldn't pay off , and if they had a hand that they would potentially pay off with, they would raise preflop, forcing me to put more chips in the pot.

[taipan168]

I did have a lot of respect for Taipan. I pretty much gave up the hand when he called my preflop bet.

Sig, if you had bet the flop I would have given it up.

[TLR]

#34: Taipan's fold makes sense, but considering my agressiveness I am surprised he folded.
#37: Taipan made a comment about me being Laggy, I also had a great run of cards
#43: Intersting hand, I think Pants fold was very smart with the action before him.
I also liked taipan's play here. I wonder how this hand would have gone if we had an all low flop....
47: Usually when someone bets with air even a small reraise knocks them out. I misplayed this hand on the river
#51: With RandomHero's stack I am surprised he did not raise AQ even from UTG
#58: I think Sigrud should have c-bet here

[Pants_101]

now i dont get this hand!!! thats a great flop for you Pantz to bet at. you raise SC UTG to randomise your strategy, but the point of doing this is that you represent a very strong hand. this flop suits many strong hand you rep so bet and you should take it down.

yes you're right. I had typed my c-bet into the little box but then I just got the fear suddenly and checked instead Stupid I know, won't get anywhere doing things like that. It's also clear to me from reading the comments how far behind the others I am in terms of putting people on hand ranges AND considering what range they are putting me on. I'd love to play in some more of these tournies I think they will really help me improve that side of my game.

Hand 57-Pantz what is your thinking in limping Q9o here, doesnt seem to be much of a point.

Well I was thinking hmm I wonder if I can limp in and use my position to take down the pot post flop. Optimistic I guess

[Da GOAT]

Hand 57-Pantz what is your thinking in limping Q9o here, doesnt seem to be much of a point.

Well I was thinking hmm I wonder if I can limp in and use my position to take down the pot post flop. Optimistic I guess

you should just steal here since you'll more than likely takre the blinds. only way you'll gain any chips postflop is if your behind.

[taipan168]

#34: Taipan's fold makes sense, but considering my agressiveness I am surprised he folded.

I would have played if your raise was from the button or CO but not from MP. Even though you have been aggressive I know you won't raise rags from MP.

#43: Intersting hand, I think Pants fold was very smart with the action before him.
I also liked taipan's play here. I wonder how this hand would have gone if we had an all low flop....

From OOP with 3 good players seeing the flop I would have checked and seen what action followed. Against one opp I would value bet 2/3 the pot for sure but against 3 opps there's too much of a chance that the last caller hit a set (having correctly called with implied odds) or that the initial raiser has an overpair.

[Random_Hero]

Just wondering when Part 4 is too be added...

that is all... thanks

[Da GOAT]

so hungover so no way i can spend hours cutting and pasting at the moment!!! its 5pm my time and im only getting up after getting in at 9am.

ill start 2m and prob put it out then.

[Random_Hero]

lol... no rush, was just wondering

cheers.

[GatorJH]

so hungover so no way i can spend hours cutting and pasting at the moment!!! its 5pm my time and im only getting up after getting in at 9am.

ill start 2m and prob put it out then.

Post of the month!!!!!!!!!!