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    Default How did I play these Queens? $5.40 Don

    Any input greatly appreciated:

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $5.00+$0.40 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG+1 (t1550)
    MP1 (t1480)
    MP2 (t1450)
    MP3 (t1370)
    CO (t1240)
    Button (t1700)
    Hero (SB) (t1480)
    BB (t3230)
    UTG (t1500)

    Hero's M: 49.33

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q
    1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t60, 5 folds, Hero calls t50, BB calls t40

    Flop: (t180) 4, 10, 8 (3 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks

    Turn: (t180) 6 (3 players)
    Hero bets t120, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls t120

    River: (t420) 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets t420, UTG+1 raises to t840, Hero calls t420

    Total pot: t2100
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    Too passive in my opinion.During the early stages of DoN,we only play premium hands(QQ,KK,AA).DoN its not about staying alive watching people busting out,but you yourself have to get some chips in order to stay alive.

    In this hand,ill re-raise 4x his raise,then bet the flop,evaluate the turn(depends on your reads),and shoving the turn.
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    WTF!?!?!?!!?

    re-raise pre.

    as played raise the FLOP - I'd even be happy with a c/raise.

    As played again - you gotta call river.
    Normski
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    first of all, you THREEBET them pre! second, you DONK THE FLOP! and, you likely fold to the minraise. villains fold too much here and only raise with the goods. minraising the river sucks to be you, but you arent winning this one often. i would strive to get more money in earlier with your biggest hands. they lose at times, but you need to get more in when likely ahead to build some chips for later.

    dont focus on chip building, but GET PAID on your big hands.

    willbur? he cant c/r the flop. no one bet. if he went for it, he should have mentioned he whiffed a c/r there, imo.
    LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

    Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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    my bad about c/raise...

    but the prob is defo pre-flop. Why would you not raise Q-Q here?

    And then you can follow through on flop, and then on turn etc...

    just makes life soooo much easier.
    Normski
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillburForce
    my bad about c/raise...

    but the prob is defo pre-flop. Why would you not raise Q-Q here?

    And then you can follow through on flop, and then on turn etc...

    just makes life soooo much easier.
    +1
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    I went allin with Queens preflop 5x that day and was busted everytime so I thought maybe I should play them like a lower pocket pair and see what happens on the flop. Sure enough my opponent was playing a low pocket pair and hit his set and I was sucked in.
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    never stop pushing QQ. well, i can think of very few situations in these tourneys anyway.

    horrible streaks where the cards, players, blinds arent helping you out are part of it. nerve racking? yes.

    you will hit a streak where you just hear the "dink" of a table ending and had no idea how because you were paying attention to another soon enough.

    its nice have several "dinking" at the same time as the bubbles go on. thats the sound of a heater. and, it all balances out.
    LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

    Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghem67
    I went allin with Queens preflop 5x that day and was busted everytime so I thought maybe I should play them like a lower pocket pair and see what happens on the flop. Sure enough my opponent was playing a low pocket pair and hit his set and I was sucked in.
    Try not to focus on the results. At the low stakes levels queens should be a raising/reraising/push pre-flop hand. You simply can't afford to give out free flops to folks holding Ax, Kx or pockets. There are only 3 hands that dominate queens (AA,AK, KK) and opps at this level are usually pushing pre with a much wider range than that.

    In a way winning hands is a lot like placing in SnG's. Sometimes QQ will lose 5 or 10 times in a row. But over time these anomalies will even themselves out when you win a couple in a row.
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    Default Stop and Go?

    I find lots of people will make a raise with Ax and often call a re raise especially early in these games. I like to call the raise with QQ and JJ then push the flop if no A falls. I would have pot size bet the flop chasing out the Ax hands and with any look keeping in top pair hands and maybe 99, JJ. Only real worry is TT, 88 which might be their even 44 from BB. If they are in you would here about it soon enough.
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    Default Re: Stop and Go?

    Quote Originally Posted by hopeful
    I find lots of people will make a raise with Ax and often call a re raise especially early in these games. I like to call the raise with QQ and JJ then push the flop if no A falls. I would have pot size bet the flop chasing out the Ax hands and with any look keeping in top pair hands and maybe 99, JJ. Only real worry is TT, 88 which might be their even 44 from BB. If they are in you would here about it soon enough.
    Alot of what you typed makes no sense. But:

    Don't call a raise pre with Q-Q ever. Re-raise and look to get it all in - unless you have a super read (which you won't at a $5 DoN).
    Normski
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    Alot of what you typed makes no sense. But:

    Everytime i post people say that or something similar. According to sharkscope i have 730 games at ROI 17%.
    Perhaps theirs more than one way to play? but that probably makes no sense either[/quote]
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    ghem67, walk us through your thought process every street
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    yea Ok grammer is crap
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    Quote Originally Posted by hopeful
    Alot of what you typed makes no sense. But:

    Everytime i post people say that or something similar. According to sharkscope i have 730 games at ROI 17%.
    Perhaps theirs more than one way to play? but that probably makes no sense either
    [/quote]

    I meant literally makes no sense...read you post. The grammars all over the place.

    And there are lots of ways to play. But not re-raising Q-Q on a £5 DoN is wrong.
    Normski
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
    ghem67, walk us through your thought process every street
    Well typically with Queens it would be a raise 3-4x BB unless it is level 1-2 then I would just make it a 120-150 raise preflop. If I am reraised I would probably fold but maybe call. If the flop comes with an A or K on it I would c-bet 1/2 to 3/4 pot and fold if reraised. If the flop comes underneath my queens(rainbow and not connected of course) I will bet pot or go allin. If it is not an allin situation and I see the turn with chips remaining I will probably push then unless it is an Ace or King, connects numbers, or connects suits where I would probably try to check to the end or maybe call a small raise.

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