My first $60 turbo - tripled up first hand but bubbled

Super frustrating particularly considering the table was full of donks who were waaaay down according to Sharkscope. Did I just get unlucky or did I play badly? The push on the last hand may have been a little wide according to SNGPT.

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---Tournament Summary---
$55 SNG: Finished 4/9 for $0
Data for 52 hands.
You played 14 hands (26.92%)
You raised 13 times preflop (25.00%)


-----Hand 1-----
Hero's M = 50.00
PokerStars Game #9710414225: Tournament #49279505, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/05/02 - 05:42:46 (ET)
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Table '49279505 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Tony camm (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: taipan168 (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: bighair83 (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: tenix (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: pstfu (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: detroit442 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: magoomanchoo (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: YAMAHA1980 (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: snoxx1 (1500 in chips)
taipan168: posts small blind 10
bighair83: posts big blind 20
Preflop: taipan168 dealt K K
tenix: folds
pstfu: calls 20
detroit442: folds
magoomanchoo: raises 180 to 200
YAMAHA1980: folds
snoxx1: folds
Tony camm: folds
taipan168: raises 400 to 600
bighair83: folds
pstfu: calls 580
magoomanchoo: raises 900 to 1500 and is all-in
taipan168: calls 900 and is all-in
pstfu: calls 900 and is all-in
Flop: 2 8 5
Turn: 6
River: 9
Showdown:
taipan168: shows K K (a pair of Kings)
pstfu: shows A Q (high card Ace)
magoomanchoo: shows J J (a pair of Jacks)
taipan168 collected 4520 from pot


7 A BU (M = 150.67; f+f+f+r+F)
7 9 CO (M = 150.67; f+f+c+F)
8 5 MP1 (M = 150.67; f+f+F)
7 3 UTG+1 (M = 150.67; f+F)
K 6 UTG (M = 150.67; F)
9 K BB (M = 100.44; f+f+r+f+f+f+F)

-----Hand 2-----
Hero's M = 99.78
PokerStars Game #9710443046: Tournament #49279505, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/05/02 - 05:48:45 (ET)
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Table '49279505 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Tony camm (1585 in chips)
Seat 2: taipan168 (4490 in chips)
Seat 3: bighair83 (1530 in chips)
Seat 4: tenix (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: detroit442 (1565 in chips)
Seat 8: YAMAHA1980 (2160 in chips)
Seat 9: snoxx1 (700 in chips)
taipan168: posts small blind 15
bighair83: posts big blind 30
Preflop: taipan168 dealt 6 6
tenix: folds
detroit442: folds
YAMAHA1980: folds
snoxx1: folds
Tony camm: calls 30
taipan168: calls 15
bighair83: checks
Flop: 7 9 5
taipan168: checks
bighair83: checks
Tony camm: checks
Turn: 5
taipan168: bets 80
bighair83: calls 80
Tony camm: folds
River: 4
taipan168: checks
bighair83: checks
Showdown:
taipan168: shows 6 6 (two pair, Sixes and Fives)
bighair83: shows 3 9 (two pair, Nines and Fives)
bighair83 collected 250 from pot


7 3 BU (M = 97.33; c+f+f+f+F)
6 3 CO (M = 97.33; f+f+f+F)
9 6 MP1 (M = 97.33; f+c+F)
J A UTG+1 (M = 97.33; r+F)
3 5 UTG (M = 97.33; F)
T 4 BB (M = 58.40; r+f+f+f+f+f+F)
Q 7 SB (M = 57.73; f+r+f+f+f+F)
A 3 BU (M = 57.40; c+f+f+f+F)
K 3 CO (M = 57.40; f+f+f+F)
5 7 MP1 (M = 57.40; f+f+F)
A 9 UTG+1 (M = 57.40; f+F)
K Q UTG (M = 57.40; F)
7 8 BB (M = 57.40; f+p+f+f+f+f+F)
K 3 SB (M = 28.37; p+f+f+p+f+F)

-----Hand 3-----
Hero's M = 28.03
PokerStars Game #9710492619: Tournament #49279505, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/05/02 - 05:58:56 (ET)
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Table '49279505 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Tony camm (1155 in chips)
Seat 2: taipan168 (4205 in chips)
Seat 3: bighair83 (1365 in chips)
Seat 4: tenix (906 in chips)
Seat 6: detroit442 (2892 in chips)
Seat 8: YAMAHA1980 (2015 in chips)
Seat 9: snoxx1 (962 in chips)
bighair83: posts small blind 50
tenix: posts big blind 100
Preflop: taipan168 dealt A T
detroit442: folds
YAMAHA1980: folds
snoxx1: folds
Tony camm: folds
taipan168: raises 200 to 300
bighair83: folds
tenix: folds
taipan168 collected 250 from pot
taipan168: doesn't show hand



-----Hand 4-----
Hero's M = 29.03
PokerStars Game #9710494685: Tournament #49279505, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/05/02 - 05:59:21 (ET)
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Table '49279505 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Tony camm (1155 in chips)
Seat 2: taipan168 (4355 in chips)
Seat 3: bighair83 (1315 in chips)
Seat 4: tenix (806 in chips)
Seat 6: detroit442 (2892 in chips)
Seat 8: YAMAHA1980 (2015 in chips)
Seat 9: snoxx1 (962 in chips)
tenix: posts small blind 50
detroit442: posts big blind 100
Preflop: taipan168 dealt A Q
YAMAHA1980: folds
snoxx1: folds
Tony camm: folds
taipan168: raises 200 to 300
bighair83: folds
tenix: raises 506 to 806 and is all-in
detroit442: folds
taipan168: calls 506
Flop: 6 3 6
Turn: 2
River: 9
Showdown:
tenix: shows 8 T (a pair of Sixes)
taipan168: shows A Q (a pair of Sixes - Ace kicker)
taipan168 collected 1712 from pot


4 7 MP1 (M = 35.07; f+F)
J K UTG (M = 35.07; F)
A 2 BB (M = 35.07; f+f+f+r+f+F)
5 8 SB (M = 34.41; f+f+f+f+F)

-----Hand 5-----
Hero's M = 34.07
PokerStars Game #9710506118: Tournament #49279505, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/05/02 - 06:01:38 (ET)
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Table '49279505 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Tony camm (1005 in chips)
Seat 2: taipan168 (5111 in chips)
Seat 3: bighair83 (1515 in chips)
Seat 6: detroit442 (1930 in chips)
Seat 8: YAMAHA1980 (1965 in chips)
Seat 9: snoxx1 (1974 in chips)
bighair83: posts small blind 50
detroit442: posts big blind 100
Preflop: taipan168 dealt A A
YAMAHA1980: folds
snoxx1: folds
Tony camm: folds
taipan168: raises 200 to 300
bighair83: folds
detroit442: folds
taipan168 collected 250 from pot
taipan168: doesn't show hand


6 Q CO (M = 35.07; f+f+F)

-----Hand 6-----
Hero's M = 35.07
PokerStars Game #9710510162: Tournament #49279505, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/05/02 - 06:02:26 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49279505 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Tony camm (1005 in chips)
Seat 2: taipan168 (5261 in chips)
Seat 3: bighair83 (1465 in chips)
Seat 8: YAMAHA1980 (3795 in chips)
Seat 9: snoxx1 (1974 in chips)
snoxx1: posts small blind 50
Tony camm: posts big blind 100
Preflop: taipan168 dealt K Q
taipan168: raises 200 to 300
bighair83: folds
YAMAHA1980: folds
snoxx1: folds
Tony camm: folds
taipan168 collected 250 from pot
taipan168: doesn't show hand



-----Hand 7-----
Hero's M = 36.07
PokerStars Game #9710511654: Tournament #49279505, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/05/02 - 06:02:44 (ET)
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Table '49279505 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Tony camm (905 in chips)
Seat 2: taipan168 (5411 in chips)
Seat 3: bighair83 (1465 in chips)
Seat 8: YAMAHA1980 (3795 in chips)
Seat 9: snoxx1 (1924 in chips)
Tony camm: posts small blind 50
taipan168: posts big blind 100
Preflop: taipan168 dealt 5 A
bighair83: folds
YAMAHA1980: folds
snoxx1: folds
Tony camm: raises 300 to 400
taipan168: raises 300 to 700 Misclick, I meant to just shove it here. Don't think it would have made a difference though.
Tony camm: raises 205 to 905 and is all-in
taipan168: calls 205
Flop: A 9 5
Turn: J
River: 9
Showdown:
Tony camm: shows Q A (two pair, Aces and Nines)
taipan168: shows 5 A (two pair, Aces and Nines - lower kicker)
Tony camm collected 1810 from pot


4 3 SB (M = 20.03; f+f+r+F)
2 J BU (M = 19.69; r+f+F)
9 K CO (M = 19.69; f+F)
3 2 UTG (M = 19.69; F)
5 2 BB (M = 19.69; f+f+r+f+F)

-----Hand 8-----
Hero's M = 19.03
PokerStars Game #9710522513: Tournament #49279505, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2007/05/02 - 06:04:55 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49279505 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Tony camm (1810 in chips)
Seat 2: taipan168 (4281 in chips)
Seat 3: bighair83 (1465 in chips)
Seat 8: YAMAHA1980 (3495 in chips)
Seat 9: snoxx1 (2449 in chips)
taipan168: posts small blind 75
bighair83: posts big blind 150
Preflop: taipan168 dealt J K
YAMAHA1980: folds
snoxx1: folds
Tony camm: folds
taipan168: raises 300 to 450
bighair83: folds
taipan168 collected 300 from pot
taipan168: doesn't show hand



-----Hand 9-----
Hero's M = 19.69
PokerStars Game #9710523457: Tournament #49279505, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2007/05/02 - 06:05:06 (ET)
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Table '49279505 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Tony camm (1810 in chips)
Seat 2: taipan168 (4431 in chips)
Seat 3: bighair83 (1315 in chips)
Seat 8: YAMAHA1980 (3495 in chips)
Seat 9: snoxx1 (2449 in chips)
bighair83: posts small blind 75
YAMAHA1980: posts big blind 150
Preflop: taipan168 dealt 7 A
snoxx1: folds
Tony camm: folds
taipan168: raises 300 to 450
bighair83: folds
YAMAHA1980: folds
taipan168 collected 375 from pot
taipan168: doesn't show hand


K 8 CO (M = 20.69; f+F)

-----Hand 10-----
Hero's M = 20.69
PokerStars Game #9710529292: Tournament #49279505, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2007/05/02 - 06:06:16 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49279505 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Tony camm (1810 in chips)
Seat 2: taipan168 (4656 in chips)
Seat 3: bighair83 (1240 in chips)
Seat 8: YAMAHA1980 (896 in chips)
Seat 9: snoxx1 (4898 in chips)
snoxx1: posts small blind 75
Tony camm: posts big blind 150
Preflop: taipan168 dealt T T
taipan168: raises 300 to 450
bighair83: folds
YAMAHA1980: folds
snoxx1: folds
Tony camm: folds
taipan168 collected 375 from pot
taipan168: doesn't show hand


3 T BB (Folded to taipan168.)
5 7 SB (M = 22.03; f+r+f+F)

-----Hand 11-----
Hero's M = 21.69
PokerStars Game #9710533599: Tournament #49279505, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2007/05/02 - 06:07:08 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49279505 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Tony camm (1585 in chips)
Seat 2: taipan168 (4881 in chips)
Seat 3: bighair83 (1090 in chips)
Seat 8: YAMAHA1980 (896 in chips)
Seat 9: snoxx1 (5048 in chips)
bighair83: posts small blind 75
YAMAHA1980: posts big blind 150
Preflop: taipan168 dealt 3 3
snoxx1: folds
Tony camm: folds
taipan168: raises 300 to 450
bighair83: raises 640 to 1090 and is all-in
YAMAHA1980: folds
taipan168: calls 640
Flop: 6 T 5
Turn: 8
River: K
Showdown:
bighair83: shows A 8 (a pair of Eights)
taipan168: shows 3 3 (a pair of Threes)
bighair83 collected 2330 from pot


8 J CO (M = 16.85; f+F)
4 A UTG (M = 12.64; F)
Q 3 BB (Folded to taipan168.)
T 5 SB (M = 12.97; p+f+p+F)
J 7 BU (M = 12.64; f+F)

-----Hand 12-----
Hero's M = 12.64
PokerStars Game #9710545023: Tournament #49279505, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/05/02 - 06:09:27 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49279505 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: taipan168 (3791 in chips)
Seat 3: bighair83 (2323 in chips)
Seat 8: YAMAHA1980 (2588 in chips)
Seat 9: snoxx1 (4798 in chips)
YAMAHA1980: posts small blind 100
snoxx1: posts big blind 200
Preflop: taipan168 dealt K K
taipan168: raises 400 to 600
bighair83: folds
YAMAHA1980: folds
snoxx1: folds
taipan168 collected 500 from pot
taipan168: doesn't show hand



-----Hand 13-----
Hero's M = 13.64
PokerStars Game #9710546164: Tournament #49279505, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/05/02 - 06:09:40 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49279505 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: taipan168 (4091 in chips)
Seat 3: bighair83 (2323 in chips)
Seat 8: YAMAHA1980 (2488 in chips)
Seat 9: snoxx1 (4598 in chips)
snoxx1: posts small blind 100
taipan168: posts big blind 200
Preflop: taipan168 dealt A Q
bighair83: calls 200
YAMAHA1980: folds
snoxx1: calls 100
taipan168: raises 600 to 800
bighair83: raises 1523 to 2323 and is all-in
snoxx1: folds
taipan168: calls 1523
Flop: T 4 4
Turn: T
River: 2
Showdown:
taipan168: shows A Q (two pair, Tens and Fours)
bighair83: shows 6 6 (two pair, Tens and Sixes)
bighair83 collected 4846 from pot



-----Hand 14-----
Hero's M = 5.89
PokerStars Game #9710549337: Tournament #49279505, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/05/02 - 06:10:18 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49279505 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: taipan168 (1768 in chips)
Seat 3: bighair83 (4846 in chips)
Seat 8: YAMAHA1980 (2488 in chips)
Seat 9: snoxx1 (4398 in chips)
taipan168: posts small blind 100
bighair83: posts big blind 200
Preflop: taipan168 dealt J 3
YAMAHA1980: folds
snoxx1: folds
taipan168: raises 1568 to 1768 and is all-in
bighair83: calls 1568
Flop: K Q 5
Turn: 5
River: A
Showdown:
taipan168: shows J 3 (a pair of Fives)
bighair83: shows 3 A (two pair, Aces and Fives)
bighair83 collected 3536 from pot



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1: Wow, I am not used to seeing people pushing and calling with JJ, AQ so early in the $60
2: I would bet flop, it seems harmless enough

I think you were very tight as a short stack, I think you can have used your stack a bit to pick up some blinds and provide a looser image

7: I would just fold it preflop. A5 is very easily dominated and pretty much never ahead, and when a short stack puts 1/2 his stack in but does not push it usually means they want a call

9Club KClub CO (M = 19.69; f+F) - raise it

13: Difficult spot, I am sure folding is not correct here, I dont think you are ahead very often here, and you need the chips

14: I think J3o is too weak to push here, you are not that desprate

I have never played a $55. So, whatever.

Originally Posted by taipan168

A 2 BB (M = 35.07; f+f+f+r+f+F)

Spots like this with high M, depending on who the button raiser and if he's medium stack, I'd put him all in. haha, like this next one:

Originally Posted by taipan168

-----Hand 7-----
Hero's M = 36.07
PokerStars Game #9710511654: Tournament #49279505, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/05/02 - 06:02:44 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49279505 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Tony camm (905 in chips)
Seat 2: taipan168 (5411 in chips)
Seat 3: bighair83 (1465 in chips)
Seat 8: YAMAHA1980 (3795 in chips)
Seat 9: snoxx1 (1924 in chips)
Tony camm: posts small blind 50
taipan168: posts big blind 100
Preflop: taipan168 dealt 5 A
bighair83: folds
YAMAHA1980: folds
snoxx1: folds
Tony camm: raises 300 to 400
taipan168: raises 300 to 700 Misclick, I meant to just shove it here. Don't think it would have made a difference though.
Tony camm: raises 205 to 905 and is all-in
taipan168: calls 205
Flop: A 9 5
Turn: J
River: 9
Showdown:
Tony camm: shows Q A (two pair, Aces and Nines)
taipan168: shows 5 A (two pair, Aces and Nines - lower kicker)
Tony camm collected 1810 from pot

Only real problem I can see:

Originally Posted by taipan168

-----Hand 14-----
Hero's M = 5.89
PokerStars Game #9710549337: Tournament #49279505, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/05/02 - 06:10:18 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49279505 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: taipan168 (1768 in chips)
Seat 3: bighair83 (4846 in chips)
Seat 8: YAMAHA1980 (2488 in chips)
Seat 9: snoxx1 (4398 in chips)
taipan168: posts small blind 100
bighair83: posts big blind 200
Preflop: taipan168 dealt J 3
YAMAHA1980: folds
snoxx1: folds
taipan168: raises 1568 to 1768 and is all-in
bighair83: calls 1568
Flop: K Q 5
Turn: 5
River: A
Showdown:
taipan168: shows J 3 (a pair of Fives)
bighair83: shows 3 A (two pair, Aces and Fives)
bighair83 collected 3536 from pot

A5 is bad IMO, zero FE and we only ahead of K high.

last hand is +EV but i may hold off on it tho i know i push SBs alot

Originally Posted by TLR

1: Wow, I am not used to seeing people pushing and calling with JJ, AQ so early in the $60

Yes I was totally shocked to see JJ and AQ this early, I was expecting one of them to show me AA

Originally Posted by TLR

7: I would just fold it preflop. A5 is very easily dominated and pretty much never ahead, and when a short stack puts 1/2 his stack in but does not push it usually means they want a call

Don't think I could ever fold it considering his stack size and mine, I think he does this with a lot of hands that A5s is ahead of

Originally Posted by TLR

14: I think J3o is too weak to push here, you are not that desprate

I agree with you and FS, this push was thin, also because I had just lost the previous hand so they might think I was tilting. Considering the stack sizes I think I should have expected him to call wider than I thought he would.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

A5 is bad IMO, zero FE and we only ahead of K high.

Assuming opp is raising 27% (22+,A2+,K9o+,K6s+,QJo,QTs+,JTs) or greater then calling/shoving over (assuming no FE) is +EV. Don't know whether there is a difference in ranges between what he raises 45% of his stack or shoves.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

last hand is +EV but i may hold off on it tho i know i push SBs alot

+0.3% if he calls with 44+, A7+, KJ+ but -0.5% if he calls with 22+, A2+, KT+, QJ+. Maybe $60 players know to call wide in this spot, I don't know.

Originally Posted by taipan168

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

A5 is bad IMO, zero FE and we only ahead of K high.

Assuming opp is raising 27% (22+,A2+,K9o+,K6s+,QJo,QTs+,JTs) or greater then calling/shoving over (assuming no FE) is +EV. Don't know whether there is a difference in ranges between what he raises 45% of his stack or shoves.

i think you should think of all players as poor ones unless have info otherwise so i dont think we are good here.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

last hand is +EV but i may hold off on it tho i know i push SBs alot

+0.3% if he calls with 44+, A7+, KJ+ but -0.5% if he calls with 22+, A2+, KT+, QJ+. Maybe $60 players know to call wide in this spot, I don't know.

its close enough for me to fold coz you can shove alot again on BTN so its not like your THAT desperate

With A5, even if you are ahead you are very marginally ahead, so I dont think it was worth it

Hand 13 with the AQ looks a littly weird in hindsight. Granted sitting at the table i'm getting aggressive with it but without knowing the table texture its hard to comment. What makes it stand out is the UTG limp 4 handed by the guy with the 44. If he hasn't been limping much if at all then it suggests big hand, or a plan to make a play. At this point i think you still have the chips to check and stack him on a worse ace or a small PP play when you hit.

UL, I think, including the final hand (but personally I would have been slightly more prudent in a new environment - easy to say in hindsight). But the experience as a whole must have encouraged you about moving up to these levels indefinitely, right?

Originally Posted by taipan168

-----Hand 2-----
Hero's M = 99.78
PokerStars Game #9710443046: Tournament #49279505, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/05/02 - 05:48:45 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49279505 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Tony camm (1585 in chips)
Seat 2: taipan168 (4490 in chips)
Seat 3: bighair83 (1530 in chips)
Seat 4: tenix (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: detroit442 (1565 in chips)
Seat 8: YAMAHA1980 (2160 in chips)
Seat 9: snoxx1 (700 in chips)
taipan168: posts small blind 15
bighair83: posts big blind 30
Preflop: taipan168 dealt 6 6
tenix: folds
detroit442: folds
YAMAHA1980: folds
snoxx1: folds
Tony camm: calls 30
taipan168: calls 15
bighair83: checks
Flop: 7 9 5
taipan168: checks
bighair83: checks
Tony camm: checks
Turn: 5
taipan168: bets 80
bighair83: calls 80
Tony camm: folds
River: 4
taipan168: checks
bighair83: checks
Showdown:
taipan168: shows 6 6 (two pair, Sixes and Fives)
bighair83: shows 3 9 (two pair, Nines and Fives)
bighair83 collected 250 from pot



-----Hand 13-----
Hero's M = 13.64
PokerStars Game #9710546164: Tournament #49279505, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/05/02 - 06:09:40 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49279505 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: taipan168 (4091 in chips)
Seat 3: bighair83 (2323 in chips)
Seat 8: YAMAHA1980 (2488 in chips)
Seat 9: snoxx1 (4598 in chips)
snoxx1: posts small blind 100
taipan168: posts big blind 200
Preflop: taipan168 dealt A Q
bighair83: calls 200
YAMAHA1980: folds
snoxx1: calls 100
taipan168: raises 600 to 800
bighair83: raises 1523 to 2323 and is all-in
snoxx1: folds
taipan168: calls 1523
Flop: T 4 4
Turn: T
River: 2
Showdown:
taipan168: shows A Q (two pair, Tens and Fours)
bighair83: shows 6 6 (two pair, Tens and Sixes)
bighair83 collected 4846 from pot



-----Hand 14-----
Hero's M = 5.89
PokerStars Game #9710549337: Tournament #49279505, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/05/02 - 06:10:18 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49279505 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: taipan168 (1768 in chips)
Seat 3: bighair83 (4846 in chips)
Seat 8: YAMAHA1980 (2488 in chips)
Seat 9: snoxx1 (4398 in chips)
taipan168: posts small blind 100
bighair83: posts big blind 200
Preflop: taipan168 dealt J 3
YAMAHA1980: folds
snoxx1: folds
taipan168: raises 1568 to 1768 and is all-in
bighair83: calls 1568
Flop: K Q 5
Turn: 5
River: A
Showdown:
taipan168: shows J 3 (a pair of Fives)
bighair83: shows 3 A (two pair, Aces and Fives)
bighair83 collected 3536 from pot



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Hand 2: I would raise here. Now that you have a big stack, punish the limpers. Get full value out of 66.

Hand 13: Just horrendous by villain. You just got unlucky, nh.

Hand 14: I would fold if I know that he is wide here. You still have a decent stack and can find a better spot.

All in all, I think that you can crush these if play is going to be this bad. You just got unlucky sir!

hand 7 (A5s): this is spew. you're probably 80% dominated, or 20% a 60/40 favourite.
hand 13 (AQs): raise is too much. i'd just make it 500 total....it makes for folding vs snoxx's all in reraise a lot easier.
hand 14 (J3o): too loose

Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi

hand 13 (AQs): raise is too much. i'd just make it 500 total....it makes for folding vs snoxx's all in reraise a lot easier.

you serious?? 500 total?? theres Limp UTG plus SB limp and you want to make it just 300 more PF.

to be afraid of snoxx is terrible here, he is a big stack who limps SB. to raise less and let him screw us for implied odds is bad.

as played is good.

7: A5 is boarderline for me and I imagine icm would pop out an +EV call - but I doubt it's a big one. I think I'm calling here regardless of the fact that most players who raise off half of their stack are trying to price action - you could argue a fold if you had a good enough read on the player not being capable of pushing a wide range and whether or not his raise pf is strong or timid.

j3o: You needed a read on the BB that told you he would fold a hand like the one he called with in order to push here. Was your image loose/desperate? Was he paying attention? I would have liked to wait untill YAMAHA was on the BB too. -Not that I haven't made a push like this before

Everything else is marginally unlucky.


-Why do people think the $60 turbos are where the sharks swim at? They are just as soft as the $25s imo.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi

hand 13 (AQs): raise is too much. i'd just make it 500 total....it makes for folding vs snoxx's all in reraise a lot easier.

you serious?? 500 total?? theres Limp UTG plus SB limp and you want to make it just 300 more PF.

to be afraid of snoxx is terrible here, he is a big stack who limps SB. to raise less and let him screw us for implied odds is bad.

as played is good.

what implied odds?

Originally Posted by taipan168

I think I should have expected him to call wider than I thought he would.

Originally Posted by K2 the ArmA

Why do people think the $60 turbos are where the sharks swim at? They are just as soft as the $25s imo.

did anybody scope bighair83? awesome!

Thanks for the replies and for taking the time to look through this.

I think the A5s hand could have gone either way on reflection, I don't hate my play but I don't think that folding would have been too nitty either.

Originally Posted by biondino

But the experience as a whole must have encouraged you about moving up to these levels indefinitely, right?

Yes, absolutely. I played another one directly after this one (and bubbled it too GODDAMMIT) and from my tiny sample size the standard of play at the $60s did not seem significantly better than the $27s. You do need to avoid the 548954890-tabling 2+2ers but that's true at the $27s too.

Hand 2: A raise is reasonable here. There aren't really many flops that you're gonna like, and you can see how the table is going to respond to you.

Just before hand 5, you folded 58o in the SB. Raise this, especially with the chip lead and with your tight style. That might have paid dividends on the following hand.

Hand 7: What do we know about Tony camm? Has he been raising much? Has he been shoving? Any thoughts on what him not shoving here might mean? I think this hand is really close between a fold the reraise you intended. Ax just isn't that far ahead if Tony isn't raising a huge range (or really even if he is...).

K9s before hand 8: I raise this.

A4o before hand 12: I probably raise this given the respect your table has shown and the fact that you're 4-handed.

13: I don't know if it's any better (I don't know that you want to discourage action), but another line you could consider is pushing preflop.

14: I don't think I push here. Especially after the last hand, I think bighair is the type of player to call wide.

Thanks for your comments Jeffrey, I mostly agree with you.

Originally Posted by JeffreyGB

13: I don't know if it's any better (I don't know that you want to discourage action), but another line you could consider is pushing preflop.

The plan here was to call a push by the short stack but fold to one by the big stack. If the big stack has indeed slowplayed a monster I want to have the option of getting out (sure, that leaves me open to him pushing anyway but meh).

Hyper,

my main point is raising just another 300 is terrible. you will get into too much of a hairy situation if you hit TP and get action. you just bloated the pot for no good reason and there is another big stack like yours in there.

opp has 4K stack like you!! and you charge him only 300 into 1200 pot (or w/e it is roughly). pot is big enough for you to get stacked.

i dunno but maybe Tai you could keep this thread alive by constantly posting tourneys here. be it a collection of very solid play. only once a month or something so discussion doesnt overlap.

thoughts?

i think it'll be great but they gotta be $60 Turbos plus

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

i dunno but maybe Tai you could keep this thread alive by constantly posting tourneys here. be it a collection of very solid play. only once a month or something so discussion doesnt overlap.

thoughts?

i think it'll be great but they gotta be $60 Turbos plus

Certainly more than happy to keep on posting tourneys if people will keep on looking at them, this one has had a great response, thanks everybody

LOL you're assuming that my play is "very solid", that could be a dangerous assumption to make!

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

Hyper,

my main point is raising just another 300 is terrible. you will get into too much of a hairy situation if you hit TP and get action. you just bloated the pot for no good reason and there is another big stack like yours in there.

opp has 4K stack like you!! and you charge him only 300 into 1200 pot (or w/e it is roughly). pot is big enough for you to get stacked.

perhaps 300 more is not enough. i still think 600 more is too much. anyways, i'm one of the most nitty players out there. if i were playing, i check here over 50% of the time. i just really hate AQ that much.

Tai, I would think that one would get a little more respect at these levels, mind you not by much from what you have shown. But, more so compared to the buy-ins below this. Therefore, use your position a little more when you can afford to and prey on the weak. Like hand 2 for example. Raise that shit when they limp on the button and you have a big stack.

i agree hand 2 was meh its ok with me so i didnt comment.

i think raise is probably better since opp looks poor.

Originally Posted by taipan168

Thanks for your comments Jeffrey, I mostly agree with you.

Originally Posted by JeffreyGB

13: I don't know if it's any better (I don't know that you want to discourage action), but another line you could consider is pushing preflop.

The plan here was to call a push by the short stack but fold to one by the big stack. If the big stack has indeed slowplayed a monster I want to have the option of getting out (sure, that leaves me open to him pushing anyway but meh).

The big stack who just completed his small blind? I think it's pretty unreasonable to be worried about him trapping behind a limper...

the AQ hand reminds me alot about some sklansky thread on 2+2. ill try find it. its not exactly the same but includes a short stack whose in EP but a big stack in blinds that can cripple you badly and you must choose a bet size.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...0&fpart=1&vc=1

ok my example isnt perfect but it focuses on bet sizing a fair bit that i took something away from this discussion.