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  1. #1

    Default Push this?

    Seat 1: im nogenius [9C,9D] ($2,030 in chips)
    Seat 2: chrismike920 ($1,705 in chips)
    Seat 5: fusionlemmin ($5,530 in chips)
    Seat 6: ariestheram ($1,445 in chips)
    Seat 7: UpTheRiver73 ($2,400 in chips)
    Seat 9: HaroldWong0 ($1,410 in chips)
    Seat 10: Fishngolf30 ($480 in chips)
    ANTES/BLINDS
    UpTheRiver73 posts blind ($75), HaroldWong0 posts blind ($150).

    PRE-FLOP
    Fishngolf30 bets $480 and is all-in, im nogenius ???

    ---

    The table was playing fairly tight.

    Would you push here?
  2. #2

    Default Re: Push this?

    Quote Originally Posted by nogenius
    Seat 1: im nogenius [9C,9D] ($2,030 in chips)
    Seat 2: chrismike920 ($1,705 in chips)
    Seat 5: fusionlemmin ($5,530 in chips)
    Seat 6: ariestheram ($1,445 in chips)
    Seat 7: UpTheRiver73 ($2,400 in chips)
    Seat 9: HaroldWong0 ($1,410 in chips)
    Seat 10: Fishngolf30 ($480 in chips)
    ANTES/BLINDS
    UpTheRiver73 posts blind ($75), HaroldWong0 posts blind ($150).

    PRE-FLOP
    Fishngolf30 bets $480 and is all-in, im nogenius ???

    ---

    The table was playing fairly tight.

    Would you push here?
    i think its fine to push.
  3. #3
    Pretty tough spot, I think I would fold here
    You are out of position, and you are probably not that much ahead of even the short stack push


  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Pretty tough spot, I think I would fold here
    You are out of position, and you are probably not that much ahead of even the short stack push
    the shortie has 3xBB the shortie should be pushing a lot of hands.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by vqc
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Pretty tough spot, I think I would fold here
    You are out of position, and you are probably not that much ahead of even the short stack push
    the shortie has 3xBB the shortie should be pushing a lot of hands.
    True, but its probably not total crap, either two broadway, which gives you a coinflip, or PP 77+.
    On the button I would probably push, but from EP I would probably fold


  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Quote Originally Posted by vqc
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Pretty tough spot, I think I would fold here
    You are out of position, and you are probably not that much ahead of even the short stack push
    the shortie has 3xBB the shortie should be pushing a lot of hands.
    True, but its probably not total crap, either two broadway, which gives you a coinflip, or PP 77+.
    On the button I would probably push, but from EP I would probably fold
    his hand range has nothing to do with wat position u are in.
    It is valid to worry about the number of players after u, however.

    BUT
    calling here and losing will still leave u above 10xBB.
    calling here and winning gives u STACK!
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by vqc
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Quote Originally Posted by vqc
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Pretty tough spot, I think I would fold here
    You are out of position, and you are probably not that much ahead of even the short stack push
    the shortie has 3xBB the shortie should be pushing a lot of hands.
    True, but its probably not total crap, either two broadway, which gives you a coinflip, or PP 77+.
    On the button I would probably push, but from EP I would probably fold
    his hand range has nothing to do with wat position u are in.
    It is valid to worry about the number of players after u, however.

    BUT
    calling here and losing will still leave u above 10xBB.
    calling here and winning gives u STACK!
    Calling opens you up to raises from big stacks behind you.I think the more reasonable options here are pushing and folding, in late position I push in this situation, in early position I fold


  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Quote Originally Posted by vqc
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Quote Originally Posted by vqc
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Pretty tough spot, I think I would fold here
    You are out of position, and you are probably not that much ahead of even the short stack push
    the shortie has 3xBB the shortie should be pushing a lot of hands.
    True, but its probably not total crap, either two broadway, which gives you a coinflip, or PP 77+.
    On the button I would probably push, but from EP I would probably fold
    his hand range has nothing to do with wat position u are in.
    It is valid to worry about the number of players after u, however.

    BUT
    calling here and losing will still leave u above 10xBB.
    calling here and winning gives u STACK!
    Calling opens you up to raises from big stacks behind you.I think the more reasonable options here are pushing and folding, in late position I push in this situation, in early position I fold
    i meant pushing isntead of calling.

    Im generally not afraid of other stacks calling my all in after i push over.
  9. #9
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    I think both a push and a fold is fine, I'll probably push it myself. The shortie is in the big blind next round, which will hurt him very badly. He could have decided that it is time to take a stab while he still has a tiny amount of folding equity, so I think his pushing range here is way lower than two broadway/pp 77+. I'd add at least any pp, any ace.

    Someone behind is probably not calling all-in over all-in with anything other than QQ/KK/AA and if they have it, gg, fire up another one. Also, there's the possibility of surviving even if you do run into a monster behind you, if someone that doesn't have you outstacked has it. You'll have a short stack and will be needing a bit of luck to get back in the game, but we've all seen that happen.

    So yeah, I push.
  10. #10
    Im pushing here...you only get called by AA/KK/AK/QQ so just push and hope no one has any one of those hands..if you loose youll still have enough chips to come back and if you win...well your chances of winning the sng are much greater
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    I don't care what you do as long as you don't just call....
  12. #12
    Unless this table was my prison bitch for blind steals... I push 99 over short stack here.

    If I was a bigger stack, like in 2nd place and can easily coast ITM, I might fold.

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