Who here bets their straight and flush draws

So who here bets their draws?
On the flop?
On the turn?

Is this a good play, a bad play?

How much do you bet in relation to the pot?

Please discuss.

I do. usually as a continuation semi-bluff...

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if i raised before the flop, i will almost always bet or raise my draws.

if i'm short stacked, i will just push when it gets to me if i have a strong draw.

otherwise, i don't reall have a set play. if i think i can win the pot, i will usually take a stab at it (whether betting or raising a weak bet). on aggressive tables, i usually try to get as many free cards as possible.

i think you almost have to bet them to remain unoredictable, id usually bet half the pot just to weed out crap hands but if ur raised, its usually by a top pair that would originally bet to get you out anyway, and if you hit, you have their stack...i feel sometimes its wrong if ur betting into a bigger stack but better against a smaller stack to have leverage... However if u catch against a big stack, u double up....very controversial, could go either way

less people in pot = me more inclined to bet

against weakness i push these HARD. it really helps your image when someone calls and you show your draw. You will get payed off a lot more on other hands.

I have to agree with gabe on this.

When raising prf, I normally put out a continuation bet (½ the pot), to try to win the pot right now, unless my read says that the other guy is a calling station and will call everything.
My problem is if I get called, and I dont catch a card to complete my draw on the turn, I dont know what to do. Is the best thing just to check, and if the other guy bets, then only call if pot odds are in your favor (and implied odds of course)?

If shortstack I will also normally push if I'm on a favorable draw - tho last time I did it, I got called down by someone who had the same draw as me, and when we both caught our flush card on the river he had the nutflush while I had king high

If you bet the flop and get flat called, the chances are he hasn't made his hand either yet. If he had TPTK or 2 pair, he "should" raise you to try and push you off your draw.

So if the turn doesn't look like it helped any draws you should fire another bullet and put another bet out there. He's only likely to call the second bet if he's drawing to the nuts.

I never chase flushes preflop, unless they are over cards. 1 out of 15 times I will actually hit the flush. I value my money too much to chase, low flushes

Depends on situation, but I like to bet my flush draws. I will also bet my straight draws if they appear like this.

DEALT: KQo

Flop: JT3

I have an open draw to the straight, and a chance to spike a Q or K to take it down for TP. Sometimes I'm weary of this situation because a player calling your bets could have QJ, KJ, etc.

Originally Posted by TanO

If you bet the flop and get flat called, the chances are he hasn't made his hand either yet. If he had TPTK or 2 pair, he "should" raise you to try and push you off your draw.

So if the turn doesn't look like it helped any draws you should fire another bullet and put another bet out there. He's only likely to call the second bet if he's drawing to the nuts.

ya i fire 2 bullets a lot. works quite a bit and sometimes u get raised on the turn which usually means set/2pair slow play. either way i call the re-raise because of odds then check fold if i miss. if i hit and there's no full house i am not afraid to go all in because a lot of the time they don't put u on the flush/strait that you are semi bluffing.

I usually bet/call my draws with at least one over if my opp limped in and here's why:

1. your draw has a 45% chance with some implied odds
2. your semi-bluff has a 20% chance (combined for a 65% chance to win)
3. you disguise your draw and maybe get a free turn card

On a super passive weak table I might hold off the bet and just get the free card. If I make my draw I will simply bet out and know I will get called anyway. No point in playing deceptively on a passive table.

lets say there are 5 people on the flop, at this table, there is one guy who will often bet the pot if it is checked around to him.

do you bet ur flush draw as a blocking bet hoping to price ur own draw? Maybe ur half the pot is less than the 3/4 he would have put out?

If you get reraised when u bet ur draw, does that give u more information than if u had only chcked? Is that information worht the bet?

i bet my draws to set my own pot odds rather than letting someone else bet more than i want them to, also it can buy you a free card on the turn because they will often check the turn if you bet the flop.

it depends.

Generally, yes. I play aggresive so I'm usually delighted to have something to bet with besides nothing. Ironically I think tighties should also bet draws, take advantage of that tight rep!

In the example above, I think a bet is a bad idea because it sounds like you may get a bett pot going by checking and letting the agg bet. If you bet and get raised, it's going to be you and him for sure, but maybe others will call his bet and give you better odds.

Originally Posted by vqchuang

do you bet ur flush draw as a blocking bet hoping to price ur own draw? Maybe ur half the pot is less than the 3/4 he would have put out?

And not just for the turn card but for the river too. If he figures out you
are on a draw he will bet to blow your odds. If he thinks you have a made hand he will value bet to build the pot. The value bets are often cheaper.

Ofcourse this only works if the board is not too obvious. For instance if it shows K78 and you have 65. Definitely bet that.

OTOH, a board showing 9TJ with you holding Q5. I check those and hope
he messes up the odds bet.

Early on when the blinds are small, I don't. When the blinds are @ 50/100, I always do, to try and take control(or maintain control) of the hand. At this point, it is exactly as Bair said:

i bet my draws to set my own pot odds rather than letting someone else bet more than i want them to, also it can buy you a free card on the turn because they will often check the turn if you bet the flop.