FTR Werewolf: Gold Rush (Carbon Poker Freeroll)

Originally Posted by wufwugy

You're in luck! This isn't.

I don't do it much anymore because of how dangerous it is. So obviously I want to be certain of things. Also, I've stopped doing it based on me being attacked. JV once pointed out how I do that, and he was right. I'm now cognizant of the flaw. Besides, you're not attacking me. Wonder why....

I think the village is in luck because you bolded me and aren't putting the usually Wufwugy effort into proving your case.

We need more VILLAGERS voting guys. There's been some astonishing shit that's gone down in this thread and people are acting like nothing's happened.

What's happened that's so astonishing? I must have missed it.

Rong, to paraphrase you, are you playing for the wolf den of tomorrow or the village of today?

Originally Posted by baudib

I don't think I'm going to get lynched.

This day has gone pretty much as I expected and I've gotten solid reads so far. Of course, it's my first day as a villager ever so obviously I'm going to get some stuff wrong. A lot more will become clearer soon.

how can you be so confident to say that ?

Because I'm obviously a villager, and the better players will realize this.

Consider this: When I was a wolf I never got bolded, because I managed to get enormous villager cred.

Now, as a villager, I'm leading the voting.

This tells me I'm doing a good job of pissing off the wolves.

What's the case against me? If being confident in my reads was a lynchable offense, Wuf would be an auto D1 lynch every game.

My vig strat idea worked exactly as I thought it would. If you're a villager, is the endorsement from Gabe not enough for you?

I won't be lynching baudib as he is putting too much effort into the game right now. Same goes for wuf. Dan and Keith strike me wrong so I could vote for either of them atm.

I feel like Keith is just being Keith. He's not trying to make shit up and see if it sticks. He's treating me with healthy skepticism and I respect that.

Rong still bothers me but not as much as before.

I'll be off pokering for a bit.

I remember what it was -- Rong made a good catch on GrayFoxx's list of reads, which was basically a list of "the people who don't like baudib's idea are townish, lynch baudib."

GF plays on Mafiascum so he's not a noob even if he tried to pretend to be.

Originally Posted by baudib

I remember what it was -- Rong made a good catch on GrayFoxx's list of reads, which was basically a list of "the people who don't like baudib's idea are townish, lynch baudib."

GF plays on Mafiascum so he's not a noob even if he tried to pretend to be.

I touched on your idea 4/8 reasons."Basically" is kind of stretching it. What else was there to talk about? You guys are doing alot of referencing to past games. I'm working with what is in front of me.

My mafia scum name is the same as this one, check it out. Its my first game, still in day one. So I guess this technically my second. Im not noob even if I tried to pretend to be? Could you rephrase that? I feel like thats a triple negative or something.

Originally Posted by baudib

Pretty sure I have the wolves nailed down already. Let's see how they react.

Lynch Bikes.

How are you so sure who's who already? If you are town, how did you expect wolves to react? Did you seta trap by voting Bikes, or do you think HE is a wolf?

Originally Posted by baudib

Now, as a villager, I'm leading the voting.

This tells me I'm doing a good job of pissing off the wolves. Unless I'm mistaken, only me and Wuf are the only ones who have voted you. Are you saying we are the wolves?

What's the case against me? If being confident in my reads was a lynchable offense, Wuf would be an auto D1 lynch every game.

Your confidence is the last thing that is present in your argument. You wont even try to defend it. It can't be the reason you have votes.

My vig strat idea worked exactly as I thought it would. If you're a villager, is the endorsement from Gabe not enough for you?


Maybe it's a weak read, but are you wolf trying drop hints you are the vig?

^

Originally Posted by wufwugy

If he's a wolf, I think it means Gray is a wolf often

rescind lolz lynch baudib

Catch 22 for me. If I'm right and he is a wolf, I'm a wolf. If you are saying this because of my vote, its wierd that you are second to vote him.

It would make me your scapegoat if you are the other wolf, and you 2 are trying to create distance from each other.

Your saying his confidence is wolfish is wierd because there is none.This could be you giving a false reason to vote him if you are wolf.

He has acted like his bandwagon is a waste of time. Seems like a good wolf strat, not confidence.

Edit post-
Didn't mean to say other wolf as if there were only 2. I am used to there being 2 baddies in my phrasing.

Rong still bothers me but not as much as before.

I remember what it was -- Rong made a good catch on GrayFoxx's list of reads, which was basically a list of "the people who don't like baudib's idea are townish, lynch baudib."

Baudib, how does rong catching my wording error make him seem more town? I notice the way you phrased your second comment halfway puts words in rongs mouth.

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GrayFoxxxx:
You're at a clear disadvantage as this is your first game. It's only my second game; I came in at the end of the last game, where I had to replace the last remaining wolf.

But werewolves, like poker, is a game of information. As you said, you're only working with what's in front of you. Everyone who's a veteran has a reputation and a play style and it's all there for you to read in the forum.

How are you so sure who's who already? If you are town, how did you expect wolves to react? Did you seta trap by voting Bikes, or do you think HE is a wolf?

Mostly hyperbole. Everyone puffs their chest out and jokes they know everything, especially on Day 1. You seem awfully concerned about what I think though, shouldn't you be trying to prove I'm a wolf?

I've dominated the conversation far too much, it's a game and it should be fun for everyone. Have at it.

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Originally Posted by baudib

GrayFoxxxx:
Mostly hyperbole. Everyone puffs their chest out and jokes they know everything, especially on Day 1.In post 133 you said-

I like my vote on bikes quite a bit right now

Could you elaborate?

You seem awfully concerned about what I think though, shouldn't you be trying to prove I'm a wolf? I think being concerned about what you think has alot to do with proving you are wolf.

I've dominated the conversation far too much, it's a game and it should be fun for everyone. Have at it.Is this an excuse to ignore my other posts and questions?

^

Baudib, in 133 you also said -

As I said he was my zero-information lynch pick(Keith), if I felt he was wolfy at all I'd vote for him.

In 110 you said

Keith, given this exact population of players, you were my default lynch given little to no information on Day 1.

But you say your vote on Bikes was a joke aka no info. This leaves alot of room for confusion.

Could you elaborate?

Not really, I'm still watching the wolves react.

I think being concerned about what you think has alot to do with proving you are wolf.
There are 3 wolves in the game. Try to find the other 2. I bet you could do it.

Originally Posted by GrayFoxxxx

Baudib, in 133 you also said -



In 110 you said

But you say your vote on Bikes was a joke aka no info. This leaves alot of room for confusion.

I never said my vote on Bikes was a joke and I'm quite happy with my vote where it stands.

Originally Posted by baudib

I've read almost all the game threads from the past year and a half or so, except a couple where the rules were very confusing (Witches)

thats a pretty time consuming task. its an easy bluff to make if you were a wolf but the fact is the vast majority of people wouldnt do that.

i was leaning towards baudib=villager since he wrote so many words, which i usually find very villagery (with a couple specific exceptions). he seemed so gung-ho after the last game that maybe hes an excited player who was destined to make alot of posts in this game regardless of role

Originally Posted by baudib

Could you elaborate?

Not really, I'm still watching the wolves react.

I think being concerned about what you think has alot to do with proving you are wolf.
There are 3 wolves in the game. Try to find the other 2. I bet you could do it.

just a request ........if you are quoting someone can you make it clear what you are quoting so that we don't have to then go searching for the lines being quoted to find who said what and work through the context. in endgame and lots of posts to work through , this is going to be more annoying than it is now

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wuf's a wolf, you guys.

grayfoxxx is a villager, btw. And I believe that baudib would have read all the past game threads. The guy has got a motor for these games.

On baudib's vig the quiet people: It seems to me that this was a play to drive up post-count as he has said a few times. Baudib is the only guy currently trying anything while everyone else stays pretty day 1 philosophical. Also, he's being pretty open about what he's doing.

Keep him around.

Originally Posted by wufwugy

If that's how, it takes like a hundred pages of reading to realize that Ong has been a wolf a lot yet dies before the end and that Gator is a slow starter. I don't think that many people would describe Gator as a slow starter. Gator would, JV would (but he ain't playing), Gabe might because he knows everything, Ong would (pretty sure he's said that before), I would (I've said it before)

Gator is definitely a slow starter as a wolf.

lynch wufwugy

My bones, I feels it in my bones.

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Originally Posted by rong

Noob posts so far are just them having fun. I'm not against lynching one if there's no better option but expecting high quality content from a noob on day one is pretty pointless.

Of all the noob insight thus far, from my perspective, this one seems to ring most true. A noob can speed read countless threads from past games and garner a basic knowledge of procedure. But it's difficult to fully understand strategy without experiencing it. Reading early posts in this game I came to the conclusion that a silent noob is doomed and so threw out some how-ya-doin' stuff/fluff. It ain't deep but it lets folks know there's a person behind the name who's tuned in. I've been hoping for other noob content to gauge my participation but that ain't happening.

Anyway, considering there are 3 wolves, I suspect a high likelihood that one's a noob. So picking us off early, especially low participant ones, has its merit. I wouldn't worry about what a dead noob does in future play. If I like WW, I'll join again.; it doesn't cost anything.

A request: Can we stop using first names or other nicknames when referring to each other? I have to guess who the comment is about then look up a profile to confirm. Oy.

Changing gears, it seems pointless to fill the game with bickering on-on about games/days past. I don't feel it adds to the Gold Rush mission. At this point, with so little information, I'd lynch a loudmouth just to get some peace and put the focus back on track.

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

On baudib's vig the quiet people: It seems to me that this was a play to drive up post-count as he has said a few times. Baudib is the only guy currently trying anything while everyone else stays pretty day 1 philosophical. Also, he's being pretty open about what he's doing.

Keep him around.

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Gator is definitely a slow starter as a wolf.

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

grayfoxxx is a villager, btw. And I believe that baudib would have read all the past game threads. The guy has got a motor for these games.

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

wuf's a wolf, you guys.

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

lynch wufwugy

My bones, I feels it in my bones.

theres no reason this series of posts couldnt have been in two posts . THis is the spinoff of baldrics strategy. but leads to the question of what rilla has to hide that he feels that he has to post in this manner .

They were hours apart and putting them into one coherent post would require composing that post. My way was easier.

Originally Posted by Keybored

A request: Can we stop using first names or other nicknames when referring to each other? I have to guess who the comment is about then look up a profile to confirm. Oy.

which names are you struggling with ? only non obvious one I can think of is dan ....who was danarong or something like that and it was shortened to rong.

Baldric's strategy?

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Baldric's strategy?

Killing low post count players. Well, specifically having the vig do it.

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

They were hours apart and putting them into one coherent post would require composing that post. My way was easier.

yeah right 11.42 and 11.43 .....no reason that they couldn't have been in 1 post .

3.12 ,3.13 and 3.16 and no reason that they couldn't have been in a second post. Looks at what i said and sees that i said that rilla's posts could have been in "TWO POSTS" and wondered why he posted like that to avoid a vig shot . so what are you trying to hide ? Don't remember you soing that before.

Shrug. I post the way I post.

Not buying anything Baud is selling. He has basically said that he has figured out who the wolves are, he's keeping everything tight to his vest, but will reveal soonish. Classic wolf. I gave him all yesterday to fix his shit, to see if he would actually play like a villager by trying to figure things out, but he's just still sticking to "i got this bro, no need to explain or learn more"

@Baudib. So you are telling me: you wanted to vote Keith for no reason. You voted Bikes, when bikes hadn't posted much of anything. You say its for reactionanry purposes. You then say you like your Bikes vote. I ask you to elaborate on all of this and your response is, "Just waiting for wolves to react". Very confusing.

Also, I cant lynch 3 wolves in one day, I'm going to work on 1.B ut I do have Wuf as a wolf right now.

In post 167 you said

[/QUOTE]Mostly hyperbole. Everyone puffs their chest out and jokes they know everything, especially on Day 1. [/QUOTE] This was in response to why you said bikes was wolf.

Now, In 173 you say

I never said my vote on Bikes was a joke and I'm quite happy with my vote where it stands.

You reason in kinda empty. What do you expect the wolves to do? "Shit he voted bikes, we gotta confess".

Curse my formatting handicap

I thought bikes was wolfy through his first two posts.

Keith, I got the impression that there was definitely some post-padding going on by a couple people after I made my vig post.

Of everyone in the game, I most wanted to hear more from Rilla today because I had him as a huge question mark. I'm satisfied with his input for now but I'd like to hear why he thinks GrayFoxxxx is a villager. The only thing that I can see is that he sees him as acting like a lone noob villager trying to find his way through the haze as opposed to being coached in the wolf den. GF's reads post set off all kinds of alarm bells.

Originally Posted by GrayFoxxxx

Day 1 reads so far: (Keep in mind these are shallow reads based off of only Day 1, and I'm not 100% on this)

Rong- Opening statement already puts you in a defensive stance. Odd you just call out Ong and no one else. Why are you focused on him? Fair point

Kieth- Defending non actives. Might be a towny play, or just wants to press Baudib for reactions. If I read this correctly, GF is trying to say Keith is just doing this for town cred. This doesn't make sense to me. First, how is defending non-actives a towny play? Seems like GF is subtly trying to cast suspicion on Keith.

Baudib- Posts a strat, but doesn't want to debate its merits. Would a wolf act this way? His strat just seems like a good way to get rid of more inexperianced townies. I can see the benefit for both sides...but who would gain more from it?

Keybored- Has shown his face, but hasn't say anything that pertains to the game. obvious

gabe- Why is Baudibs strat good in his eyes? Why doesn't he agree with Kieth's counter? Seems like another subtle way of casting suspicion on Gabe, whose post was pretty straightforward.

Ong- Dont really like the fact he admits he is illogical, and inconsistant. Either very bold wolfish, or IDGAF townish. OK, the wolves would probably tell him what Ong is like.

bikes- Refutes Baudibs strat along with kieth. Presented a couple of good counter points. feels townish.Here's a serious problem I have. I bolded bikes and I got 2 bolds. Look at this comment compared to his comment on Keith. GF is wrong here as Keith is actually the one who made decent counter points, but GF says this could be a play for town cred. Meanwhile bikes was just echoing Keith, so that makes him feel towny? More on bikes later.

Gator- Made his entrance, but nothing really gives any reads. -I liked this.



Lynch Baudib The posting of the strat, but not wanting to defend it. Says he has wolves nailed down with no evidence. Not 100 percent on him being scum, but this is all I got.

The most amazing thing about GF's list of reads is he left Wufwugy off it entirely.

Originally Posted by wufwugy

Not buying anything Baud is selling. He has basically said that he has figured out who the wolves are, he's keeping everything tight to his vest, but will reveal soonish. Classic wolf. I gave him all yesterday to fix his shit, to see if he would actually play like a villager by trying to figure things out, but he's just still sticking to "i got this bro, no need to explain or learn more"

I rather think it's classic wolf to line up a great lynch on principle in lolzzz, commit to it day 1, then put in great effort to justify your pivot to a promising wagon.

Originally Posted by wufwugy

^^Both good points. Here's another



I did this my only time as a wolf. It shows he isn't necessarily afraid of getting lynched and possibly that he wants to get his wagon going for wolfy purposes.

He's acting too confident in his reads. Reads he says he has but isn't posting about

If he's a wolf, I think it means Gray is a wolf often

Love a lolzz lynch on principle, but I never ever get my way in trying to get rid of the nuisance asstard players who do nothing, so whatever

rescind lolz lynch baudib

Seems wuf is ducking the accusations.

I made that greyfoxxx comment after a quick breeze through the thread this morning. When I reread later, I was tempted to back off that statement. Kinda waiting to see how he walks out the day.

@Gorilla, what do you think of wuf saying I'm probably wolf if Baudib flips wolf? Again, it felt kinda like I was trying to be used as a scapegoat, while 2 wolves had a fauxargument.

Originally Posted by GrayFoxxxx

@Baudib. So you are telling me: you wanted to vote Keith for no reason. You voted Bikes, when bikes hadn't posted much of anything. You say its for reactionanry purposes. You then say you like your Bikes vote. I ask you to elaborate on all of this and your response is, "Just waiting for wolves to react". Very confusing.

Also, I cant lynch 3 wolves in one day, I'm going to work on 1.B ut I do have Wuf as a wolf right now.

In post 167 you said

Mostly hyperbole. Everyone puffs their chest out and jokes they know everything, especially on Day 1. [/QUOTE] This was in response to why you said bikes was wolf.

Now, In 173 you say




You reason in kinda empty. What do you expect the wolves to do? "Shit he voted bikes, we gotta confess".[/QUOTE]


GF, no. My plan coming into the game, given the list of players, was to vote to lynch Keith on Day 1. I'm not gonna lynch a noob on D1, and there are a bunch of players that, absent wolfy reads, I would never lynch this early. The best way to explain this is that I feel danger of Wolf Keith >>>>>>> value of villager Keith and that he's very hard to read. There are people who are great villagers, but poor wolves, and a couple people who are great at both. It's not an insult to Keith's town game, but a compliment to his wolf game.

To be fair, my perspective is based on being the wolf in the last game, and I never felt that Keith was a threat to me compared to the other players in the game. With the benefit of near-perfect info, I felt Keith was mostly stumbling last game.

I think it's interesting that you have Wuf as a wolf when you didn't mention him at all before.

Originally Posted by GrayFoxxxx

@Gorilla, what do you think of wuf saying I'm probably wolf if Baudib flips wolf? Again, it felt kinda like I was trying to be used as a scapegoat, while 2 wolves had a fauxargument.

I think he was reaching for things to think about.

GrayFox is a villager. He's dropping too many villager tells for a noob wolf. I'm not gonna say what my favourite villager tell of his is because I don't want the wolves to start doing it.

a500lbgorilla - sporadic posting is something he does as wolf or villager. I see nothing to be overly concerned about yet, but I'm not getting a villager vibe off him either.

baudib - posting a lot, which we should expect after last game. I'm leaning wolf with him but I'm not in any hurry to kill him off today, seeing as if we're wrong we lose a lot of potential information. He's better left until later, if he's a wolf he'll leave a lot more clues than those who post less.

bigred - look how active he is

bikes - minimal stuff from bikes so far, could go either way with him but he can be a strong villager so I'll leave him be for now.

Credsfan03 - post please

gabe - usual cagey start from gabe, no read

GatorJH - usual slow start from gator, no read

GrayFoxxxx - villager, 95% sure. I'm not in any hurry to explain why seeing as I don't want wolves to start deliberately doing one of my favourite villager tells.

Keith - I think this guy is an awesome wolf and am not prepared to give him too much villager cred, even when I think he is a villager. That said, villager is my lean.

Keybored - not sure, can't remember what he's posted tbh and I'm feeling lazy. Null for now.

lolzzz_321 - replace him please, that's the best thing that can happen with lolz. He's useless and basically trolls the games. I would definitely rather see drew or SDM take his place.

rong - not gonna try and read him until later.

SweetClaireRose - post please

wufwugy - wuf is likely to be a villager if baudib is a wolf. That said if baudib is a villager, I like wuf a lot less.

lynch bigred

We should not allow him to play the way he does. He does next to nothing every game on days 1-3.

baudib is also dropping my favourite villager tell, but he could be doing it deliberately.

Remember last game when Ong fucking soul-fucked Wuf after post 1 by pegging him as the turncoat? (in b4 Wuf says Ong was right for the wrong reasons). I mean brush it off all you want but Ong doesn't get the credit he deserves sometimes. He also read Gator as a villager when everyone wanted to lynch him on reputation alone.

There have been plenty of early soul reads on people that were proven correct, including Gator pegging Dhuber last game, and courtie nailing wolves on her first two lookups.

You know who else LOVES to try to make epic reads on Day 1? Wufwugy. Villager Wuf would have made 20 posts by now explaining why each person was villager or wolf and declare, "Goddamn, I'm good at this game."

Wolves are here: Wuf, Bikes, GrayFoxxxx, Rong, Gator, the no-shows Creds and SweetClaireRose

But no really it's just Wuf, Bikes GrayFoxxxx

Originally Posted by GrayFoxxxx

@Gorilla, what do you think of wuf saying I'm probably wolf if Baudib flips wolf? Again, it felt kinda like I was trying to be used as a scapegoat, while 2 wolves had a fauxargument.

Here's why I said that

Originally Posted by GrayFoxxxx

Lynch Baudib The posting of the strat, but not wanting to defend it. Says he has wolves nailed down with no evidence. Not 100 percent on him being scum, but this is all I got.

Nobody says anything relevant to Baud over the next 25 minutes then he posts this

Originally Posted by baudib

oh jesus you guys are making this too easy.

can we start the next game already

WTF is he doing? How can he think Gray is a wolf? He already has pointed out how he thinks he has the wolves figured out, but it would not make any sense for Gray to have been on that list. So maybe he's playing a game to hedge against other wolves, so if one gets found out, it makes others look good

I didn't go into much detail because when I make up whole teams on speculation like this, I'm almost always wrong. So I just made a side comment

Originally Posted by GrayFoxxxx

Seems wuf is ducking the accusations.

What accusations? Rilla provided zero, until just now

If Keith was a wolf, I dont think he would be against that strat. Seems towny. Your feeling of me trying to cast suspicion on him is wrong.

How could I have a Day 1 read on wuf when he hadn't posted? I didn't use anything from Day 0. Very "Amazing"

Bikes agreed with Kieth, and I took notice. They had similar, but not parallel answers. Bikes sort of went into a little more depth in the explanation. Bikes also made the point about discouraging noobs. I didn't get that vibe from Keith. That doesn't look like an echo to me.

I'm not claiming any credit for my wuf soulread last game for a reason - I was just shouting shit, it wasn't a soulread. I don't necessarily think what I post, regardless of my role. A lot of my early play is reaction baiting and basically semi-trolling with the intent of creating information. I think last game I was terrible on d1 and created far too much noise, hence the change of strategy. If I actually thought wuf was the turncoat based on his early play last game, I'd be bragging all this game.

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

I rather think it's classic wolf to line up a great lynch on principle in lolzzz, commit to it day 1, then put in great effort to justify your pivot to a promising wagon.

I always do the former, but also usually find a different target when something comes up since nobody ever likes following my "great lynch on principle", as you say. The latter isn't a great effort. I would think you'd see that. Besides, I anticipate the amount of vilcred I will get this game is much less than normal because of the last game, so I expect to get the losing side of things more often

also, a guide for noobs -

dan = rong
triptanes = lolz

They're the only people who might get called something that is not obvious.

Originally Posted by wufwugy

What accusations? Rilla provided zero, until just now

Post 163.

I'm still going with Wuf gave it all away in Night 0.

Originally Posted by OngBonga

I'm not claiming any credit for my wuf soulread last game for a reason - I was just shouting shit, it wasn't a soulread. I don't necessarily think what I post, regardless of my role. A lot of my early play is reaction baiting and basically semi-trolling with the intent of creating information. I think last game I was terrible on d1 and created far too much noise, hence the change of strategy. If I actually thought wuf was the turncoat based on his early play last game, I'd be bragging all this game.

Thank you so much for saying this

FWIW, you did point out one of my POV slips later in the game, but you didn't catch how important it was. It was when I said this

Inb4 you change your mind and bold some rando for no reason whatsoever. It's the ongie way! It's going to infuriate me if you actually get one right, because the points you're making are so wrong yet you're gonna act like they were brilliant all along

I was sweating bullets that you or somebody would notice that legit slip then it would crush everything I had said about POV slips being bullshit

But I don't like a Wuf lynch today.

Ridicule me all you want but I felt I had a good feel for Wuf more than any other player after last. There was nothing Wuf could do in Day 1 that was going to convince me he was villager but I didn't want to start by attacking him incessantly. I wanted to let him hang himself and possibly point to the other wolves.

At this point I'd like to keep Wuf around just to toy with him. He'll probably confirm the entire village by tomorrow for those who can read him.

Originally Posted by wufwugy

WTF is he doing? How can he think Gray is a wolf? He already has pointed out how he thinks he has the wolves figured out, but it would not make any sense for Gray to have been on that list. So maybe he's playing a game to hedge against other wolves, so if one gets found out, it makes others look good

I literally said you two could be doing this. Now you say me and him are doing it???

Originally Posted by GrayFoxxxx

I literally said you two could be doing this. Now you say me and him are doing it???

I don't think you are to that great a degree of confidence. I'm explaining my thought process at the time

Originally Posted by wufwugy

Thank you so much for saying this

FWIW, you did point out one of my POV slips later in the game, but you didn't catch how important it was. It was when I said this



I was sweating bullets that you or somebody would notice that legit slip then it would crush everything I had said about POV slips being bullshit

Do you have anything to say about the village of this game, or stuff about me? There are 3 wolves in this game and me and GrayFoxxx are never wolves together.

should be "other than stuff about me"

It's going to infuriate me if you actually get one right

I did pick up on that but I glossed it over really because I'm reasonably sure that villagers have said something to this effect to me.

Originally Posted by baudib

At this point I'd like to keep Wuf around just to toy with him. He'll probably confirm the entire village by tomorrow for those who can read him.

I can't tell if it's your inexperience or wolfing

Originally Posted by wufwugy

Here's why I said that



Nobody says anything relevant to Baud over the next 25 minutes then he posts this



WTF is he doing? How can he think Gray is a wolf? He already has pointed out how he thinks he has the wolves figured out, but it would not make any sense for Gray to have been on that list. So maybe he's playing a game to hedge against other wolves, so if one gets found out, it makes others look good

I didn't go into much detail because when I make up whole teams on speculation like this, I'm almost always wrong. So I just made a side comment

Wuf, my "oh jesus you guys are making this too easy" was in response to bikes:

Originally Posted by bikes

while i think baudib is lols for the opening me lynch what a day 1 strat that would be if he was wolf. probably village but i can come back to this at a later time also there are probably a bunch of better choices. like triptanes!

Originally Posted by bikes

i keep forgetting he's lolzzzzzzz now and not triptanes. w/e you get the point

The guy I bolded mentioning/dismissing me is pretty relevant dontcha think

Originally Posted by wufwugy

I can't tell if it's your inexperience or wolfing

Where oh where is villager Wufwugy? Villager Wufwugy would have explained in amazetaints detail why I was a wolf by now instead of slinging out this weak shit.

GF, no. My plan coming into the game, given the list of players, was to vote to lynch Keith on Day 1. I'm not gonna lynch a noob on D1, and there are a bunch of players that, absent wolfy reads, I would never lynch this early. The best way to explain this is that I feel danger of Wolf Keith >>>>>>> value of villager Keith and that he's very hard to read. There are people who are great villagers, but poor wolves, and a couple people who are great at both. It's not an insult to Keith's town game, but a compliment to his wolf game.
Why did you vote bikes though, after saying you would vote Kieth. Now you are more happy with your bikes vote. Your explaination here would fit if you had actually voted Keith. My whole point was you saying you would vote Kieth but didn't. You obv have a better read on bikes but wont reveal it. Unless you are a wolf making things up.

I think it's interesting that you have Wuf as a wolf when you didn't mention him at all before. Already answered this

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