No theme werewolf gameplay thread

[OngBonga]

You can hope all you want, but it's too late for that. If you're a villager, ong, you tossed this game.

mojo if you're a villager and you vote me tomorrow without any discussion, then you can say I tossed it all you like, but you won't be fooling anyone.

I can't actually figure out why, if you're a villager, you're annoyed with me. But w/e, I can't be arsed to argue this until after the game. I just hope you're a wolf because then it makes sense.

And having slept on it, I hope you do snapvote me. I'm not doing any more digging until I see what you do. I can't be fucked. If you vote for me, then it takes an hour or whatever for me to either get lynched or to confirm you as wolf. So you'd actually make my life really easy by doing so. Be my guest.

[Keybored]

Well, MMM and Ong can play slapstick all night, I'm gonna look at Dhuber's life as a villager and see if the kid's death gave us any info.

[BankItDrew]

If ong is a wolf I'll be sick to my stomach for not sticking with my initial read.

[BankItDrew]

If hoopy is a wolf, I'm never playing WW again.

[Keybored]

If ong is a wolf I'll be sick to my stomach for not sticking with my initial read.

If hoopy is a wolf, I'm never playing WW again.

Lynch mmm ... He's steering this ship into shallow waters.

I'm not a wolf.

At one point or another during this game, I said that each of the remaining players are lock villagers haha

I'm so happy dhub is finally getting the rope. Bout time you guys listened to me.

Drew...How are we supposed to be listening to you at all right now? You dropped off the planet while the village was burning and then mysteriously at days end you're all over the place. You've been all about a Dhoobs lynch but you stayed locked on MMM the entire d5. I don't trust anything that you've said/done all game.

[MadMojoMonkey]

0% chance ong is village after the last day.

[MadMojoMonkey]

The assumption that made me wrong for 3 days was that I keep coming down on ong as V.

I think that's my mistake.

Ong is the one with the activity and intelligence to have played the weekend better.

BID is a tool, prob a wolf, def a tag-along that doesn't commit to any of his own opinions.

If hoopy is V, then I've read him wrong, too.

Anybody looking at this game and seeing me or key as V should seriously NOT sign up for another WW game until they've simply followed and read through a couple of games.

[MadMojoMonkey]

*Anybody looking at this game and NOT seeing me or key as V should seriously NOT sign up for another WW game until they've simply followed and read through a couple of games.

Obv. edit.

[OngBonga]

I'm a villager and anyone who thinks I'm a wolf is stupid.

I can prove I'm villager by throwing my toys out of the pram.

Watch.

Waaaaaa. Waa waa waaaaaaa.

[MadMojoMonkey]

You love to accuse the appeal to emotion. ^^ That post is nothing but.

How is me saying my reads, "throwing my toys out of a pram"?

Ong is a wolf.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Saying, "If you can't recognize an obvious detective, then you should practice." is not saying, "If you don't agree with me, you're stupid."

BUT, I appreciate the word-play.

[OngBonga]

mojo, please answer me these questions -

If I know doobs is a mislynch, why did I vote for him when I don't need to?
Why do you expect me to consider your reads more compelling than my own?
Why should I believe that you would still be tilted about an internet game 18 hours after a mislynch?
Why are you so pissed off about me not buying your hoopy/drew theory which you have promptly abandoned yourself after doob's flip?

Ong is the one with the activity and intelligence to have played the weekend better.

Emphasis on "weekend". I'm not giving up my weekend for ww. I might still find time to put in a few hours, but the fuck am I prioritising an internet game over drinks with friends. I shouldn't even need to have to explain this. The fact that you're ignoring obvious hints of villager like voting patterns and the like, and pointing at neutral things like relatively low activity at weekend (even though mt activity was higher than everyone else), this shows that you're getting desperate.

Even before doobs flipped you were spazzing at me. You spazzed with numbers earlier showing a wolf pov. You've put in a great deal of work to try and convince villagers that you are not a wolf, but it hasn't worked. So I'm not even sure your frustration is faked, I think you're genuinely frustrated that you can pull the wool over my eyes.

It's you + one of hoopy/keyb/drew, in that order.

So vote for me all you like. If the lynch isn't sealed within the hour, I can tear your posts apart in the KNOWLEDGE that you are a wolf and hunt your buddy.

[OngBonga]

You love to accuse the appeal to emotion. ^^ That post is nothing but.

How is me saying my reads, "throwing my toys out of a pram"?

Ong is a wolf.

I'm not appealing to emotion, I'm being a sarcastic twat.

[MadMojoMonkey]

The story I unraveled is still perfectly plausible.

There's no reason that ong/baud didn't start out as a little FPS from the top 2 posters who rolled wolf together. If they weren't posting in the thread, then it'd look odd. If ong doesn't attack the first person to say anything in the game, it'd look odd.

Ong looks as bad as anyone in the rilla vote.
I don't see how anyone can deny that the rilla vote was was a wolf plan at this point.

BID's sporadic flashes of content are easily the result of wolf-chat. BID's vote to kill gabe when gabe is clearly on the block and has agreed to post some thoughts looks so obv. wolfy. If BID did this as a villager, then it's easily the most noob mistake he's made. If BID is still that noob, then his posts where he calls out other people for poor reasoning are 180 degrees out of character. BID has professed his strategy this game is to basically vote along with the majority is the easiest way for a wolf to hide. It strips meaning from their votes and is terrible for the village to have a non-contributing member.

Hoopy posts so little that it's easy for a wolf to hide behind. hoopy doesn't make cases, or speculate to answer the fulcrum questions of the game. Hoopy is not a detective. This is a closed-house murder-mystery. If you're not a detective, you're not helping the village.

Key is a villager. His reads are semi-noob/surface level, but he's digging into the game and compiling posts for easy reference. If not the detective, then he's the researcher that supports the detectives.

[MadMojoMonkey]

mojo, please answer me these questions -

If I know doobs is a mislynch, why did I vote for him when I don't need to?
Why do you expect me to consider your reads more compelling than my own?
Why should I believe that you would still be tilted about an internet game 18 hours after a mislynch?
Why are you so pissed off about me not buying your hoopy/drew theory which you have promptly abandoned yourself after doob's flip?

Since when does a wolf not need to lynch villagers?

I don't expect anyone to weight me reads more strongly than their own. I do expect all villagers to critique and support or refute all arguments posted to the thread.

I don't know why you believe anything you believe and I'm certainly not interested in what anyone "should" believe except myself.

I'm not pissed, I'm convinced that you wouldn't have ever ignored the preponderance of evidence saying that dhubs was a bad vote if you're a V.

Me affirming that I intend to lynch ong is emotionally neutral in any event.

Here:
lynch ong

[MadMojoMonkey]

I'm not appealing to emotion, I'm being a sarcastic twat.

That's a fine line you're tiptoeing.

[MadMojoMonkey]

If I know doobs is a mislynch, why did I vote for him when I don't need to?

I think I misread that.

Your vote on dhubs is easily right in line with the way the wolves have been voting to remain hidden this long into the game. (BID)

[OngBonga]

Since when does a wolf not need to lynch villagers?

Well, if I'm a wolf, what happenes if I vote for drew instead of doobs? Doobs still gets lynched. So no, if I'm a wolf I don't need to jump on that mislynch wagon. I avoided gabe and jkds wagons, I didn't avoid the two wolf wagons. Why if I'm a wolf would I give up that perfect vote record at the worst possible time? The answer is obvious, but you refuse to acknowledge that because you need options.

[OngBonga]

Your vote on dhubs is easily right in line with the way the wolves have been voting to remain hidden this long into the game. (BID)

Right. Easily in line with my PERFECT VOTING RECORD up until doobs lynch.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Right. Easily in line with my PERFECT VOTING RECORD up until doobs lynch.

because you're a wolf and it's easy when you've convinced the village that you're V by a mad FPS ruse on days 1 and 2 that bought massive cred.

You just pointed out that your vote on dhubs was irrelevant, and that you somehow what V-cred for it.

[MadMojoMonkey]

because you're a wolf and it's easy when you've convinced the village that you're V by a mad FPS ruse on days 1 and 2 that bought massive cred.

You can't deny that someone alive ITT did so.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Ong.

Yesterday, you posted something about if MMM is a wolf, then why isn't he going after key/dhubs?

I was in the midst of posting the 3-quote detailing how hoopy did an about face on his previous read. I posted that and then scrolled up to see your comment about me targeting the weakest players if I'm W.

That was such synchronicity in you posting, "this is what I expect the wolves to do" and me posting, "hey hoopy, why you do dis?"

You ignore this. You ignore that confirmed V's have an excellent point about the V-status of dhubs. Additionally, you ignore both my argument and your own argument that dhubs would be the easiest target for the wolves, and you vote dhubs.

You say your vote anywhere else wouldn't matter, but why does ong say this? Ong says, "Pick your target and push them, make your own choices."

lynch ong

[Hoopy]

Hoopy posts so little that it's easy for a wolf to hide behind. hoopy doesn't make cases, or speculate to answer the fulcrum questions of the game. Hoopy is not a detective. This is a closed-house murder-mystery. If you're not a detective, you're not helping the village.

I have made cases and speculated on what's going on this game, you've just chosen to ignore most of them and demand more.

It's partly my fault that dhuber got mislynched, I was convinced he was a wolf. Tomorrow we should be going through his posts and seeing what they reveal, no point in doing it yet though.

[Keybored]

Just gonna go on record and say that key and MMM are the last wolves.

...and I'm on record saying BID/MMM are wolves.

[MadMojoMonkey]

smh

gg, wolves

[MadMojoMonkey]

no point in doing it yet though.

wolfy

[Keybored]

This may be for naught as the NK could ease our pain in a couple hours but the protect has a very high probability of working and I won't be as available tomorrow to research as today. So, here's Dhuber's first game day/night plus a couple of our responses to him. It's hard researching him since ppl tend to have their own version of how to spell his name. Anyway...
#70: Pops V on MoMo & Ong right away...

My third game and I've finally rolled vanilla. I believe MMM is a village lean. I'm also leaning villager on Ong and have no reads on the others who have posted so far, so I guess I have nothing useful to contribute at this time.

#86: Pops Luco as V (correctly). Hits me for inactivity...

I'm slightly suspicious of Luco because everything his posts are SO village-like, but can't bring myself to nominate him because of how valuable he is for the town (he wouldn't get a wagon anyway for that reason). I'm going to nominate one of the inactives, so... lynch Keybored

#133: Agrees with Ong on voting inactives, rescinds, likes the D1 extension, gives Baud a V lean (incorrectly)...

Sure. My post was just a reference to the fact that this is the first WW match where I am neither or Wolf or a Special... with no particular reference to the stipulations of this particular match where there are only WWs and VVs. As Ong pointed out, lynching inactive is not +EV for village so I am going to rescind that vote.
Rescind Keybored
Extending Day 1 to Tuesday is good news for Village imo (as baudib alluded to). I believe he is Village lean. There could be a wagon for me coming up, but I am definitely Villager, so am trying to concéntrate on finding someone who I have at least some read on who is a Wolf. I do not really have a read on that yet.

#134: Baudib's infamous WIFOM defense to Dhuber.

#166: Leans Baud as V (incorrectly) but likes Keith for W over Ong, votes Keith (incorrectly)...

This is my thinking as well (except the fact that I'm a Villager). However, I'm no longer suspicious of baudib but am more intrigued by the Keith/Ong back-and-forth. I think there's def a solid wolf to sniff (as you say) between those two, and I'm leaning towards Keith at this moment, so I'll go with that read.
Lynch Keith

#168: Still likes Keith as W (incorrectly), likes Ong better now...

Regarding the Keith/Ong posts, it would be sick if they're both wolves. They both obv have ample skill to pull this off, but I don't know if Ong would employ this strategy early game. I'm also remembering the Ong/Wuf disputes back when Wuf was Turncoat in my first match when I rolled Wolf, and how Wuf had me super-convinced Ong was off in his reads although he wasn't. If Ong has a solid-enough read to lynch, then I'm on that wagon for now.

#172: Still likes Keith as W and loving on Ong some more...

Wholeheartedly agree with this. Although he's also too good to let hanging around if he rolled Wolf, random chances are he's village and is needed itt. I'm getting a Village vibe from him atm. Keith is a far superior player than I am (you all are, actually), and the fact that I'm a bit suspicious won't--and shouldn't-- hold any weight. I do like Ong's read though and that is what I'm going on for the most part.

#195: Drew gives Dhuber semi-strong V lean...

After reading wufs posts eight times, I think I have a good feel for this game. Strategy though - not so much.
DhuberI'm a sucker for players who say things like "omg first time i'm a villager" in their opening. I understand this seems to be the norm for him but I don't think he has the balls to pull it off again, especially after getting wtfpwnd last game. Semi-strong villager lean.
Ong - I'm on the fence with ong (I wrote this after his first few posts). I'm currently placing ong on the wolf side of the fence (I wrote this after reading his last few posts). I have a very good read on him imo (I nailed his role the last couple of games early). On one hand, his exchange with baudib early seemed like a sincere villager, but his language is slightly different than villager ong.
BID - Boring villager. I truly love being a wolf waaaaaaay more than anything else.
HoopsThat endgame comment seems personal. I may have made two mistakes a year ago but come on, give me a friggen break already. Also, if you think my endgame sucks, why would you think me being a powerful angel would be a good thing for the village?
I think lynching a player who is fairly inactive and of above average skill level would be best in this game. Hoopy gets a wolfy lean for bad village strat.
Keybored This is so bad. Your reasons are so so bad. Keybored gets a wolf lean for bad village strat.
lynch ong
I'd like to test out my Day 1 soul read. At the very least, he'd make a great dead thread angel.

#199: Sees problem with Ong-Baud action, switches off Keith very late in the day (correctly)...

The Ong jump onto baudib wagon is highly suspicious imo, and is prompting me to change my initial read. I think baudib is a likely Day 1 lynch (besides myself) and this decision could cost my own neck but I think there's something to read in Ong's post (and its timing) to lynch someone who could very likely go early. Therefore...
Rescind Keith / Lynch Ong

#272: END OF D1 (BAUD LYNCHED) . . .

jkds - ong
luco - keith
mmm - baud
rilla - keith
key - jkds
keith - bid
gabe - baud
dhubs - ong
bid - ong
baud - ong
ong - baud
daven - baud

hoopy - nobody

ong - 4
keith - 2
baud - 4 (lead)
jkds - 1
bid - 1

#288: Admits wrong lynch, sez he'll review but never does...

lol so much for my read that baudib was a village lean. Just goes to show I have so much to learn still. Time to go back through baud's posts and see what I can come up with.

#300: Starts getting down on himself...

RE: JKDS' "I suck at WW now." I feel the same way... not that I was ever good to begin with.

#322: Ong reads Dhuber voting as wolfy, puts him in top 3...

Here's where I'm at
MMM - feels like a villager
Dhuber - fence sitting with myself and keith while giving baudib cover... wolfy.
BID - drew feels more thoughtful here and I'm not sure if that means he's a wolf trying to not fuck up or a villager trying to shake off his lvp rep. I can usually read drew's motives but I'm struggling here.
Hoops - strong villager lean for lurking as baudib died, he could've lynched me but didn't. He's not as conf as keith simply because hoopy would have a harder time explaining a late switch to me.
Keybored - another who was lurking at deadline and could've saved baudib by killing me, so another villager lean. Again would have a harder time explaining himself so he's not conf territory.
doober rilla jkds my top three picks

#333: End of N1 (Keith Killed) -- Start D2 . . .

DAY 1 summary of Dhuber: Starts game off spouting I'm a Villager! Likes MoMo/Ong in first post. Then totally, totally missed the Baudib death spiral going on all around him and becomes a Keith hater, but votes to lynch Ong last minute after loving him all day. Says at night he'll review but never gets that invested and already starts to doubt his own abilities. Looking back at him, from just this D1/N1 action, I think the kid has "much to learn", to use his own words.

[wufwugy]

Dizzity dazzity daylight, son!

The Living

MMM
Ong
BID
Hoops
Keybored

The Dead

A crazy, themed game (or ur mam)
baudib
keith
rilla
daven
gabe
luco
jkds
dhubs

The Village

3 villagers
2 wolves
2 ghost angels!


Shits be Day 6, foolio! Y'all honkies b needin' dat 3 votes to get dat frankie fresh lynch!

[OngBonga]

So far so good...

[MadMojoMonkey]

lynch ong

[MadMojoMonkey]

If I'm wrong, wolves will end it in a sec. The longer ong lives, the move he's a wolf.

[MadMojoMonkey]

move = more

[OngBonga]

lol

Wolf or villager mojo, you just went to the top of my vig list for my first kill. You just shown yourself to be a liability.

[OngBonga]

I'll give it 1hr but I would've thought they'd have done it already. I think you're confwolf now.

[OngBonga]

If anyone is lurking, now would be a good time to post.

[MadMojoMonkey]

After the way you avoided discussing my ideas all weekend, you have the gall to claim that I am the liability?

Every one of my mistakes was predicated on the notion that you were V. Then you pulled off the weekend with that lolwat ending to yesterday.

If I'm wrong about you, you are easily the one who dropped the ball while I was digging and sleuthing.

[OngBonga]

For example, if drew and hoopy both post now without nailing me, I know that's not a viable team.

[MadMojoMonkey]

0.1% chance villager ong lynches dhubs.

0.1% chance villager ong reads my posts enough to do a read-through on BID/hoopy, but doesn't directly address my posts or the questions therein until minutes before deadline.

[OngBonga]

Yeah like hell you're a villager.

lynch mojo

[OngBonga]

Your vote has been up for, what, 20 minutes? Not once have you done this...

rescind

In an effort to trap the wolves.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Not once have I done what? Believed that you were so obviously a wolf that I wont hear anything but a story from you that I can stand behind?

The 1, single, only way for you to have prevented this was to follow up on your promise:
[QUOTE=OngBonga;2214766][QUOTE=MadMojoMonkey]Then you ignored everything I had to say until the last minute, when you shrugged off a complex argument without saying when and where it goes wrong.

Well we can talk about this through the night can't we. I'm sorry I was too busy reading through drew and hoopy's posts to address your theory in good time. But it changes literally nothing. Would drew have got lynched if we talked about this four hours ago? lolnope.

Your theory is plausible. It's also plausible that wuf is an accountant irl. idk what the fuck wuf does for a living, he could be an accountant. It's plausible but that doesn't mean probable.

Which you did not do.

lynch ong

[OngBonga]

Which you did not do.

Because you said you were going to snapvote me. I couldn't be bothered to do stuff during the night for obvious reasons. Ofc if I were indeed a wolf, I would hardly be likely to make such statements and then not follow up, but naturally villagers aren't thinking about shit they said and how it would be interpreted.

Shouldn't you be digging? I'm already up to page 5.

[Keybored]

Holy Shit!! WTF is going on here? We find out we got the Revive coming but you two fuckers can't keep off each other. Instead of waiting for everyone to ring in on this development, you guys go all in with 7,2 off and the rest of us hafta play catchup!!

Hoopy...you've always been my mofo. I'll do what you want cuz I don't trust that BID character for a second. Whay say ye?

[OngBonga]

hoopy, drew if either or both of you fuckers are about please post something while keyb is online.

[OngBonga]

Ok so reading through mojo's posts...

#46 doesn't like my argument against baudib's bad numbers based on baudib correcting himself, like that somehow makes his motive town all of a sudden.
#57 suggests baudib is an easy target. Suggests then that me and baudib are same team, giving him reason to attack me throughout the game once baudib flips. Little to say about anyone else alive, yet votes for keyb.
#169 votes luco.
#229 now votes baudib.
#351 comes swinging for me after the baudib flip.
#367 backs off me.
#389 votes rilla. Note that I'd already exposed him.
#409 says jkds doesn't look good, but rilla looks worse. Clearly the wolves did plan to throw rilla under the bus.
#455 once again comes swinging for me without any regard for the wolf flip.
#491 quote - "It's not out of the question that wolves were on rilla's wagon. " - lol slick.
#492 quote - " If ong flips village, then gabe-wolf is done. " - lining up mislynches.
#520 quote - " Conclusion: the wolves did not want to lose rilla on day 2." - changes his tune quickly regarding rilla wagon, conveniently giving himself v points in the process. Backs off me on this post, ofc if he wants v cred for throwing rilla under the bus, he need to town me in the process.
#548 quote - "If dhuber flips village, then JKDS is a wolf w/ gabe" - big fail here, setting himself to take a shot at two big hitters if doobs gets it.
#553 accuses drew of spewing like a donk.
#642 suspects drew+gabe.
#647 votes gabe.
#665 says sorry to gabe and is already preparing to vote me early next day.
#667 claims to have gone for gabe over me because of path of least resistence. ofc gabe is a bigger mislynch that I am, especially when everyone suspects me, including gabe who's now a conf villager.
#689 wolf between me and jkds, leans jkds, yet again a bigger mislynch for the wolves.
#714 gives v points to keyb, asks drew to explain his doobs/keyb team.
#744 says jkds looks really bad, towns me to fuck on the basis that jkds is gonna flip wolf.

I'm up to p11. Time for a cuppa.

So far it should be clear that I was happier to kill baudib than mojo was. mojo was late to the party. Admittedly he could've gone for me but didn't, but at the same time I could've gone for keith but didn't.

As for rilla, well I'd exposed him so by the time mojo hops on, it's likely to be reluctant bussing. I'd imagine rilla just threw in the towel in the den.

It looks to me so far that drew is not his buddy. I think it's prob keyb because mojo seems happy to pat keyb on the back where he can. I'd imagine after losing two wolves on days 1+2 the last two will want to protect each other at all costs. Also keyb is lurking while I sit here on one vote.

One minute he's saying that the wolves might have planned for rilla to die, next he's saying that couldn't be the case. He tentatively backs off me because he knows he can't attack me when I was on the rilla wagon while simultaneously expecting v cred for his part. He jumps back on me as soon as both gabe and jkds flip, even though he was on both those mislynch wagons and I wasn't.

It's all so obvious now. Will resume shortly.

[MadMojoMonkey]

@anyone: Counter my arguments about ong's actions and timing on the dhubs vote.

Oh wait... that would mean the village has to read to what I've said and actually think about my arguments and explore the merit of them.

Since that's not gonna happen, what can I do but bold my strongest read.

Individuals gonna do what individuals want... and drop villager reads then engage with them as equals was never on the agenda.

So if the villagers are gonna scatter, then I'm standing alone, talking to the wind. I've said what I have to say.

ong is lying about his dedication to a village win, therefore ong is not village, and he's a wolf.

lynch ong

[OngBonga]

Oh yeah and lynch mojo

[MadMojoMonkey]

So far it should be clear that I was happier to kill baudib than mojo was. mojo was late to the party. Admittedly he could've gone for me but didn't, but at the same time I could've gone for keith but didn't.

As for rilla, well I'd exposed him so by the time mojo hops on, it's likely to be reluctant bussing. I'd imagine rilla just threw in the towel in the den.

The wolves wanted to drop both baud and rilla. Keith said why and died for it.
rilla only played in a way to drop himself. I've said as much many times, and with varying clarity, but you haven't addressed that either.
There is no V-cred to be had in day 1 and 2 votes, ong, only W-cred.

If you can't address my argument about that much, then you're so obv a wolf.

[OngBonga]

If you can't address my argument about that much, then you're so obv a wolf.

lol

Assuming you're a villager, you should be in no doubt now that I'm a wolf. If and then is not the language of a villager who knows I'm a wolf.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Ong is ignoring my arguments.

He's making it sound like I single-handedly killed gabe and JKDS. I did state my reasons and drop my bold; that's fair.
I didn't make up anyone else's mind or place their vote, so I'm not the only one who was convinced of that decision, at least in the moment.

These are all paper tigers, ong.

You're not answering the fact that 2 wolves in 2 days was the wolves plan. You're not answering that your role in that is suspect, to say the least. You're implying that me saying this for days is somehow the tactic a wolf would take, when my only cred outside of my sleuthing comes from those 2 votes.

[OngBonga]

Ong is ignoring my arguments.

Of course I am, I'm busy reading your posts.

[MadMojoMonkey]

lol

Assuming you're a villager, you should be in no doubt now that I'm a wolf. If and then is not the language of a villager who knows I'm a wolf.

Who was it that said a response like "lol" could be construed as a nervous response? (IDK, it's somewhere in this thread)

"If and then" is exactly the language of a villager. What are you even on about?

Of course I don't know you're a wolf. I believe it, though.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Of course I am, I'm busy reading your posts.

Those are 2 completely different things.

[OngBonga]

#757 votes jkds, insists there must be a wolf between me and jkds.

Ooh numbers spazz time. Can't believe two wolves made the same fuckup.

I'm not sure it helps, but I can't but wonder:

How did the dead thread cast 4 votes onto 6 living and not save Luco?

Oh.. it was 4 onto 8... I'm stuck thinking about what happens after the JKDS/ong thing is sorted.

This is a smoking gun guys. How does a villager get 6? Answer - he doesn't. This is as clear a wolf pov slip as you're gonna get.

#768 tries to brush off the numbers thing by saying he wasn't considering me and jkds. Makes no sense but he's gotta come up with something.

At this stage jkds is all over mojo as he goes to the gallows.

#778 needs quoting properly
-

So on day 1, I was throwing around votes, coaxing out inactives, and then put the closing vote in on a wolf.

You think I was instrumental in bagging rilla.

and you come down on me as more wolfy than ong?!?

So, he thinks he looks better than I do, despite us BOTH being important factors in both wolf lynches. v cred for mojo but none for me, right? Well, he gives me v cred sometimes, but only when he has bigger fish to fry.

#814 posts game trees and whatnot. Cute.

Up to start of p12.

[OngBonga]

Of course I don't know you're a wolf. I believe it, though.

I'm in no doubt you're a wolf due to the fact I am not dead yet.

[MadMojoMonkey]

As far as I have seen, hoopy, BID, and dhubs have not been on FTR since the start of day.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Probably the same thing you saw, ong.

[OngBonga]

As far as I have seen, hoopy, BID, and dhubs have not been on FTR since the start of day.

Interesting slip here.

hoopy bid and keyb you mean.

Does this clear keyb or incriminate him? idk but it's weird.

[OngBonga]

Plus keyb has been online.

idk why you threw doobs in there, I'm not gonna fry my head trying to figure it out.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Interesting slip here.

hoopy bid and keyb you mean.

Does this clear keyb or incriminate him? idk but it's weird.

ummm... #1243 was key... that's today. key is showing as currently an "active member" on the main page.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Jumping at shadows, ong?

[MadMojoMonkey]

The way I see it: I argued it's hoopy/BID. ong doesn't agree, but doesn't say why.
so I'm thinking it's ong/hoopy or it's ong/BID, or it's still hoopy/BID, but ong is wrong.

Then ong plays out the weekend like that. Backing out on his own read that dhubs is a bad vote. Not dropping any reads of who is V and who is W. Not following through on his promise to address my hoopy/BID thing.

Ergo ong is wolf, and his partner is either hoopy or BID.

I don't care which it is, because as long as we bag ong, who is 99.9% W, then the revive comes back, drops a bold, and we all follow suit for the win.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Plus keyb has been online.

idk why you threw doobs in there, I'm not gonna fry my head trying to figure it out.

oops, my bad.

hoopy/BID not shown up yet.

:/

[Keybored]

Oh My Fucking God!
BOTH

OF

THESE

SUMBITCHES

ARE

WOLVES!!

And they been playing us this entire game.
And now, they're using this mother-of-all-battles to get us to lean away from them.

HOOPY/DREW . . . Tell me I'm crazy. How do we settle this???

[MadMojoMonkey]

gg wolves

[Keybored]

I'll check back in an hour...then it's nighty night for this kid.

[OngBonga]

I'll check back in an hour...then it's nighty night for this kid.

The fuck? It's barely gone midnight here. You're in Florida, you go to bed at 8pm?

[OngBonga]

#855 tries to put some pressure on hoopy, who is avoiding any serious scrutiny.
#856 jkds/hoopy his top picks at this stage.
#876 responds to me voting for him by suggesting it's me and jkds.
#882 hey everyone remember my pretty chart?
#883 quote - "when I flip villager..."
#904 reads post - drew, stays on the fence; hoopy, stays on the fence; keyb = village.
#926 responds to jkds fake arooo by digging up drew's posts. If I were a wolf I'd probably have done something along those lines.
#972 jkds flips villager, now it's me+drew
#978 reminds us that jkds said in his last post that mojo is village.

lol I'm quoting this for the lulz. This is how he started yesterday -

Agreed.

No votes on this day without a case made.

OK, dhubs, we get your point. NOW, please rescind and withhold your vote for a while.

This...

important questions:

What was keith on about that got him nommed?

Did the wolves actually intend to kill 2 wolves on day 1 and 2?
same question: Am I (MMM) wrong about the strategy the wolves used by controlling the dead thread?

Is the daven nom as obvious as it seems? (he nailed baud in a way that must have terrified the wolves, and was cleared by gabe for that.)

Why did Luco die?

Above all:
Who's the wolf team and how does it answer all of these questions?

The right answer will make the most pieces of the puzzle fit.
It will explain things, even when certain events are ignored.

^ is a wolf looking like he's asking important questions.

I can answer these now... keith got killed to keep the pressure off me, and luco got killed because the wolves figured out that's who was least likely to be protected. luco kill was pretty slick imo. Of course the luco kill is obvious to everyone, but mojo wants to play dumb about it obv.

#1015 votes doober, saying if this is his villager game it's garbage. Note that mojo is also pretending to be furious that I went for him.
#1025 rescinds, but slaps doobs one more time.

Then vote dhubs and end it. I'll hop right back with you.

Between BID and dhubs, and now you... I'm out again.

Your game, hoopy.

lynch dhubermex

^ note the use of the term "end it". Had the wolves gotten their kill last night, then doobs lynch would've ended it. Another wolf pov slip from mojo, another smoking gun.

#1035 asks me what I thin of drew/doobs as final two.
#1036 asks me who the combos are, totally missing out any options with him involved. Why does he expect me to consider teams that don't involve him?
#1038 spazzes at me again.
#1039 accuses me of focussing on "tiny slips", like the one that caught baudib.
#1045 throws a tantrum because he's put hours in and everyone else is busy enjoying the weekend.
#1053 towns me and keybored.

up to start of p15, need a break.

[MadMojoMonkey]

This is stupid, there's no need to drag this out

lynch MadMojoMonkey

[MadMojoMonkey]

gg wolves.

[Keybored]

LYNCH MMM

[Keybored]

Buh Bye

[Keybored]

gg villagers

[Keybored]

ahhhhhhhhhh .... fuuuuuuuuucking ... roooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

[OngBonga]

A bit anticlimatic but I'll take it.

FISTPUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have no idea how we recovered that shit keyb, good fucking effort.

mojo, that self vote is awful. You gotta come after me hard knowing I'm a wolf, you can't just lie down and let me slap you about.