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    Werewolf bitches!

    Waffle -

    Do not refer to pms that I have sent you other than your role pm, and night action pm. If you're unsure, pm me.

    Activity - if anyone flakes I'll be forced to modkill. 48 hours warning will always be given. I'm not going to be anal about content, that's a village problem, not mine. Just vote at least once a ww day and you'll be fine by me.

    Post editing - please do not abuse the good thing we have going here with editing. Correcting typos and failed bold tags is fine, changing the content or context of your post is not. Blatant abuse will be dealt with harshly.

    Days will be around 5 days, I'll post a 48 hour deadline after a couple of days or so. Nights will be 24 hours.

    Wolves have been shown a vanilla town role pm.

    This is not a role madness game, nor is it a vanilla game. It's somewhere in between.

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    villagers:wolves - 12:4

    With 16 alive, it's 9 to lynch.

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    I've been waiting a long fucking time for this game to start. Thanks BongOonga!

    I'm a regular villager and if you boot me early again I'm gonna think you're a wolf, so fuck off.

    It seems like every other game I'm out after 24hrs irl.
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    LOLOLOLOL I almost forgot....

    lynch jums
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    There is no such thing as regular villagers. We all have our own special flavours to make us unique hehe.

    But seriously, first picture posted gets lynched. Who is with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    LOLOLOLOL I almost forgot....

    lynch jums
    You forgot to mention how wolfy I always seem.
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    Hey Ong, do you think you need mod powers during the game so you can lock the thread or is talking at night going to be allowed?
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    Day lasts 5 days? That's absurd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jyms View Post
    first picture posted gets lynched. Who is with me.
    I like pictures. I feel they add to the flavor of the page. What's your beef with them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jyms View Post
    Hey Ong, do you think you need mod powers during the game so you can lock the thread or is talking at night going to be allowed?
    Night talk is fine, we haven't seen any problems yet.

    rilla, days are 14 days on mafiascum. I'll extend the deadline if I'm rushing the village, I just don't want people to feel it's dragging on. Any shorter than 5 days is truly absurd. Consider deadlines to be flexible.
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    I don't think I've ever played a game where day lasted longer than 3 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    I don't think I've ever played a game where day lasted longer than 3 days.
    I've got used to ludicrous length games, sorry.

    If people want shorter days I'll oblige, but for today at least, 5 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jyms View Post
    But seriously, first picture posted gets lynched. Who is with me.
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    i think the longer days are cool, curious to see how that affects the game.

    wait so do the wolves not know they're wolves? can you elaborate on what you mean by wolves being shown a town pm, ong?
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    lunch chuppy
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    Quote Originally Posted by aubreymcfate View Post
    i think the longer days are cool, curious to see how that affects the game.

    wait so do the wolves not know they're wolves? can you elaborate on what you mean by wolves being shown a town pm, ong?
    What do you think it means?
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    What do you think it means?
    I was looking for an answer that included when the wolves would know they were wolves. But I guess I forgot that players don't need to know everything about non-vanilla game mechanisms.
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    aubrey jums bunkitdru and rulla all confirmed villagers. wyfwygu confirmed mvp
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    flomo confirmed wolf. still lunching chuppy tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by aubreymcfate View Post
    i think the longer days are cool, curious to see how that affects the game.

    wait so do the wolves not know they're wolves? can you elaborate on what you mean by wolves being shown a town pm, ong?
    Longer days - the last time I played a 5 day game it felt like each day went quiet in the middle. I think I prefer 3 day games with 4 days for weekends, but whatever tis all good

    Town pm - it's to do with villagers using pm referencing to prove their role. It's a cheap shot, so mod points to ong for putting that out there right away. The wolves have a copy of a villager pm that's all - I'm mildly surprised at your question Aubrey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    flomo confirmed wolf. still lunching chuppy tho
    Chip got d1 lynched last time he played.

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    i'd prefer to have shorter days and the ability to request to extend it if there is lots of discussion taking place.As Luco said long days just means nobody says anything for the first couple of days cos theres plenty of time left.Deadlines force mistakes and puts the wolves under pressure. Why give them a couple of easy days to make plans and hunt specials when discussion will force them to concentrate on what's happening in the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by jyms View Post
    Hey Ong, do you think you need mod powers during the game so you can lock the thread or is talking at night going to be allowed?
    why is Jyms asking this in thread rather than in PM. Ok he's the one that can confer the mod power but theres 4 of us who can lock the thread playing so it would be far easier just to ask if night talking is allowed which would then let the mods playing know to lock the thread or not when the day is over and if Ong did want the thread locked he could then have followed it up with a pm offering the ability to lock the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    i'd prefer to have shorter days and the ability to request to extend it if there is lots of discussion taking place.As Luco said long days just means nobody says anything for the first couple of days cos theres plenty of time left.Deadlines force mistakes and puts the wolves under pressure. Why give them a couple of easy days to make plans and hunt specials when discussion will force them to concentrate on what's happening in the game.
    LOL. "As a villager, I hate these long days." Don't even want to risk sounding like you'd be thinking in terms of a wolf in this game?
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    would you prefer longer days then rilla?
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    As a villager, no.
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    Do you think longer days are unfair, Keith?
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    I prefer shorter days, approx 3 days is good for reasons state ie goes quiet in the middle. How about start with 3 days and extend if it seems like a good idea at the time or on request. ie what Keith? said.
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    Also, wtf re aubrey not understanding the villager pm thing. Hasn't some discussion around that been standard for a good few games now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    Do you think longer days are unfair, Keith?
    I think that longer days are an advantage to the wolves because it gives them time to plan and wolf hunt , and takes the pressure off players having to post. lack of new posts will make it increasingly likely that villagers "switch off" and makes the "interested" villagers stand out as potential specials aiding wolves in their hunting.Is my position on this inconvenient for you rilla?
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    If we had opened a thread before the game began to discuss our preference between 3 day days and 5 day days, I assume many people would prefer 3 day days for any number of reasons. I doubt you specifically would say "I want 3 day days because it forces the wolves to make mistakes" because, understandably, you would have no assigned role.

    But now in the game, you're arguing for shorter days because it is a boon to the village - supposedly because you're a villager. This made me laugh because it seems a touch intellectually dishonest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    LOL. "As a villager, I hate these long days." Don't even want to risk sounding like you'd be thinking in terms of a wolf in this game?
    these are my favorite type of reads lately and they have a pretty huge success rate. might as well start it off right
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    also i have a few 12+hr flights before day 1 ends so im glad day 1 is 5 days but that seems like too much for everyday

    we could just get our shit together as a village and reach the vote requirement every time!
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    Ya as a village there is no reason to let the wolves have 5 days. We are allowed to end the days at any time by reaching a lynch. It's pretty irrelevant. What's more a worry is why everyone always says not to lynch someone when it's close because we have so much time, but rarely do we use that time, in fact we have over thought and blew a few good lynches in the past on wolves and became completely lost after.
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    Is it me or does the wolf to villager ratio seem to high? AND THESE DAYS ARE TOO DAMN LONG /meme

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    5 days is too much for day 1, though I think for later days it'd be ok.

    Also you're all wolves imo.
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    VC 1.1

    1 - rilla, chippy, keith, flomo - L-8

    rilla - drew
    chippy - wuf
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    Please let me know if I make a mistake in the VC because I'll be assuming they're correct and totting the votes up from the last VC, cheers.
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    Also, days will be 4 days, but I'll add an extra day if it finishes on weekends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    Also, wtf re aubrey not understanding the villager pm thing. Hasn't some discussion around that been standard for a good few games now.
    dude i haven't been around for a good few games now. i don't think i've ever seen that.

    thanks for the explanation luco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    rilla, days are 14 days on mafiascum. I'll extend the deadline if I'm rushing the village, I just don't want people to feel it's dragging on. Any shorter than 5 days is truly absurd. Consider deadlines to be flexible.
    I tried playing a game on MS a while back. 14 days for 1 game day just put me off though, how much is there to talk about early on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    If we had opened a thread before the game began to discuss our preference between 3 day days and 5 day days, I assume many people would prefer 3 day days for any number of reasons. I doubt you specifically would say "I want 3 day days because it forces the wolves to make mistakes" because, understandably, you would have no assigned role.

    But now in the game, you're arguing for shorter days because it is a boon to the village - supposedly because you're a villager. This made me laugh because it seems a touch intellectually dishonest.
    Why is this a touch intellectually dishonest?
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    I think because we all know our rolls so manipulating the game parameters now is kind of unfair and manipulative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aubreymcfate View Post
    Why is this a touch intellectually dishonest?
    For the reasons that I stated.

    If you argue for rules changes because the changes would benefit gameplay or the game, I would consider that intellectually honest. If you argue for rules changes because the changes would benefit your team - dishonest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    For the reasons that I stated.

    If you argue for rules changes because the changes would benefit gameplay or the game, I would consider that intellectually honest. If you argue for rules changes because the changes would benefit your team - dishonest.
    Especially in the context of this game, and especiallier when that team is apparently the village.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    For the reasons that I stated.

    If you argue for rules changes because the changes would benefit gameplay or the game, I would consider that intellectually honest. If you argue for rules changes because the changes would benefit your team - dishonest.
    oh I understand that, I more meant why does that make him wolfy. I don't think it's distinctly wolfy or anything but I see your point.

    also I don't think we should be changing any of the game rules in-game. Ong already told us what the deal would be, no? Can't we just suck it up and see how it goes?
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    post 7
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    Day lasts 5 days? That's absurd.
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    I don't think I've ever played a game where day lasted longer than 3 days.
    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    For the reasons that I stated.

    If you argue for rules changes because the changes would benefit gameplay or the game, I would consider that intellectually honest. If you argue for rules changes because the changes would benefit your team - dishonest.
    so would you consider posts 7 and 11 to be intellectually honest then rilla? especially since you are the person who brought the daylength into the conversation.Now you are targetting me over a theme that you brought to the table. seems very convenient to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    If we had opened a thread before the game began to discuss our preference between 3 day days and 5 day days, I assume many people would prefer 3 day days for any number of reasons. I doubt you specifically would say "I want 3 day days because it forces the wolves to make mistakes" because, understandably, you would have no assigned role.

    But now in the game, you're arguing for shorter days because it is a boon to the village - supposedly because you're a villager. This made me laugh because it seems a touch intellectually dishonest.
    so you didn't laugh at your own hypocrisy criticising the daylength when you made this post then
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    I've learned this lesson before. There's no worth getting into this any further than already done.
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    Keith, rilla's point is that you specifically criticized the day length bc in your eyes it was unfair to the village. Your critique was predicated on your supposed role. Rilla's was more of a general "wow that's a long time" remark.
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    why ? you started this debate , what were you hoping to achieve. I'm suspicious of your motives around this whole topic.
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    I'm assuming that's directed towards rilla
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    why ? you started this debate , what were you hoping to achieve. I'm suspicious of your motives around this whole topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    I'm hunting wolves.
    Good enough for me.

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    Aubrey, you're a shady mother. Pretending not to know stuff...

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    I just spent an hour looking through old games trying to find out if Aubrey had been in a game where the villager PM had been used/discussed but I just got side tracked reading old games and I'm none the wiser.
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    14 day game days is roflarious. i tend to think 3 is too long. we tend to all develop early opinions for each day and play with them a little but still keep a lid on it till the end, so not much happens in the middle. i also tend to not be a fan of never cinching a lynch because we have "more time" because im not sure that time ever helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    I'm hunting wolves the same way I check to see if the pasta is cooked.




    See if it sticks??
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    day 1 only needs to last 2 hours. lynch chippy
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    Chips, JV and gator yet to check in. What's your hurry woowooguy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyms View Post
    You forgot to mention how wolfy I always seem.
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    checking in but have all of my kids over tonight so pool with the boys takes precedence over ww.

    Have we lynched bigred yet?

    I will get caught up tomorrow.
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    Days lasting 3 days seems optimal for me, 15 is crazy long. And I think aubrey was not there in the game where we had the big discussion about PMs (the axis and allies game or the one before that?), I don't think she would have made this misunderstanding of "the wolves have been shown a regular villager pm" if she had known about that - whether she is a wolf or villager.

    Nice lineup.

    lynch chippy
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    VC 1.2

    2 - chippy - L-7
    1 - keith, aubrey, gator - L-8

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    i have a feeling chip's not really a part of this game lol, so for now

    lynch chip

    unless he shows up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    Chip got d1 lynched last time he played.

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    He needs to show up if he wants to avoid a d1 lynch again.
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    Worrying about chippy isn't going to accomplish anything.
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    Why did we let him play?

    Did Aubrey play the game I modded? Or was that the Game she went awol?
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