and for that matter, I moved on after the David Hasselhoff picture went up - I thought that was a classy end to how this thread turned out - I respect your posts Rondavu, youve got very insightful stuff and I like the way your poker mind works - BUT, i have admitted when i was wrong before - and i dropped this a while back - but the attacks are unnecessary and rude - I don't have to put up with that crap from these guys...I don't care who they think they are -