Whats standard here against river shove from unkown? 100NL

No reads. Just sat down 4 hands ago or so. Just curious do you need a read to call here or need a read to fold here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (UTG) ($101.50)
MP ($316.25)
Button ($125.60)
SB ($122.45)
BB ($271.70)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/kd.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/kc.gif
Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, Button calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/9d.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/5s.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/2s.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $6.50, Button calls $6.50

Turn: ($22.50) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/7d.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $15, Button raises to $30, Hero calls $15

River: ($82.50) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/7s.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]Button bets $85.10 (All-In)

I'm seriously thinking about a turn fold. Think about his range here and how many turn cards other than a King you'll be happy to see. Basically if you call the turn you're hoping to go check/check/scoop on the river or spike a King and put a lot of money into the pot.

If this hand was after a few orbits with villain and I thought he was a decent player and not laggy then I could see the turn fold. I should mention this was on a weekend where there are so many random players popping in and out of tables. I just cant give the same range to a random weekend unknown and a normal 100NL player. Thats just the turn, what about river? Im guessing ur going with fold this to unknown.

This is such a STD set line for most players $100NL and under that I would almost bet anything he has exactly that. Stack a donk lines should not get paid in non 3bet pots. If you can't get a ton of money in pre OOP then control is a better option. If you really want a showdown C/C the turn so you can get to showdown without stacking off to only better hands. Even laggs are not stacking off here with A9.

yeah turns a definite fold

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Originally Posted by jyms

This is such a STD set line for most players $100NL and under that I would almost bet anything he has exactly that. Stack a donk lines should not get paid in non 3bet pots. If you can't get a ton of money in pre OOP then control is a better option. If you really want a showdown C/C the turn so you can get to showdown without stacking off to only better hands. Even laggs are not stacking off here with A9.

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This seems interesting, but I'm not sure I get you. Do you want to elaborate?

i think river is a clear fold because you're only beating a bluff, but i dont think i have it in me to fold the turn on this board. too many terrible weekend players would play a pair + FD like this.

jyms check/calling this turn is pretty terrible on this board. i mean at that point in the hand all we know is villain floated a pretty innocuous flop.