2 Hands facing river aggression - 200NL

1st hand is a completeeeee fish. 67/2/1.5 over about 100 hands. I know he would call with a lot worse but don't see what his raising with here. Should I have C/C the river? Any other street you would play it different? Do I call or fold now?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) -

CO ($650.70)
Button ($294.75)
SB ($198)
BB ($200)
UTG ($210.05)
Hero (MP) ($436.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP with http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/ts.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/th.gif
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, Button calls $8, 2 folds

Flop: ($19) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/tc.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/5h.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/8c.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $14, Button calls $14

Turn: ($47) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/7h.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $40, Button calls $40

River: ($127) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/3c.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $60, Button raises to $120


This hand, at the time villain was 14/12/2.3 3B:3% or something like that over only 100 hands or so. All those stats don't mean much considering this was a limped pot but basically I am thinking his not a spewtard or something and not that bad and maybe on the tigheter side a bit. He almost never has 99/88 here. The third guy is a complete fish and would get it in here with so many different kinda garbage. What should I put villain on river?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) -

Hero (SB) ($247.05)
BB ($392.35)
UTG ($91)
MP ($213.40)
Button ($101.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/2c.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/as.gif
UTG calls $2, 1 fold, Button calls $2, Hero calls $1, BB checks

Flop: ($8) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/2h.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/9s.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/2d.gif (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $5, UTG calls $5, 1 fold, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($23) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/8s.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $17, UTG calls $17, Hero raises to $37, BB calls $20, UTG calls $20

River: ($134) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/ks.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $110, UTG calls $47 (All-In)

1. Yeah looks like a typical flush (or unlikely J9/96/64) play, but if it's a strangely played 2 pair, set or AA/KK more than 16% of the time you can profitably call, so it's a pretty easy call I think.

2. Be advised I'm not too great at these sort of spots, but my analysis: he already fired the flop in a 4-way pot, which makes the backdoor flush less likely. If he raises 88/99 preflop then he's for the most part on 2x. His river bet seems very confident now, K2? In general if his range by the river is 2x with x 8+ then you can call - if UTG really is dead money ofcourse..

Hand 1 - meh the guy is a complete donkey, and even though he's passive I don't put it past these ppl to do weird things sometimes, so I call the minraise and definitely definitely always bet this river vs this player

Hand 2 - your turn raise size kind of tilts me. How are you practically minraising such a drawy heavy turn card multiway? I'd raise here to around $70. Makes any river decision a lot easier too.

this is the qworst pist i have seeen ub ages ecyscuse me i am dsrunk

Hand 1: I just sigh and press a random button, fish calling down and min raising when the flush gets there, 90% of the time they seem to have it lol. But also some spazzy 2 pair or overpair would not surprise me.

Hand 2: Easy fold.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by nutsinho

this is the worst post i have seen in ages excuse me i am drunk

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lol?

in = UB nowadays?

holy shit i was blacked out. i dont even know why i would write that. i think you should fold both...

Quote:

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Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

in = UB nowadays?

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based it off the keyboard. A drunk person would press "u" which is right next to "i", same with "b" and "n". Just my guess. Yep have put way too much thought on a drunk comment lol..

1- fold river

2- raise turn bigger