My 2 selves

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09-23-2004, 09:09 PM
Humphrind

My 2 selves

Tournament Humphrind decided to go into a ring game and left ring game Humphrind at home.

Please comment on this hand.
PokerStars Game #714642459: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2004/09/23 - 19:33:17 (ET)
Table 'Gretia' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: john_cnl ($11.55 in chips)
Seat 2: darkd3mon ($3.25 in chips)
Seat 3: sauliux ($13.20 in chips)
Seat 4: Humphrind ($8.95 in chips)
Seat 5: mrdarcy ($11 in chips)
Seat 6: Matttt B ($16.50 in chips)
Seat 7: suitedup_99 ($9.45 in chips)
Seat 8: NYBigB ($13.15 in chips)
Seat 9: Blade_180 ($27.10 in chips)
john_cnl: posts small blind $0.10
darkd3mon: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Humphrind [Kd As]
sauliux: folds
Humphrind: raises $1 to $1.25
mrdarcy: folds
Matttt B: folds
suitedup_99: folds
NYBigB: folds
Blade_180: folds
john_cnl: calls $1.15
darkd3mon: raises $2 to $3.25 and is all-in
Humphrind: raises $5.70 to $8.95 and is all-in
john_cnl: calls $7.70
*** FLOP *** [7s Th 3c]
*** TURN *** [7s Th 3c] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [7s Th 3c Td] [4s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
john_cnl: shows [Jh Qh] (a pair of Tens)
Humphrind: shows [Kd As] (a pair of Tens - Ace kicker)
Humphrind collected $10.80 from side pot
darkd3mon: shows [Kh Tc] (three of a kind, Tens)
darkd3mon collected $9.30 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21.15 Main pot $9.30. Side pot $10.80. | Rake $1.05
Board [7s Th 3c Td 4s]
Seat 1: john_cnl (small blind) showed [Jh Qh] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 2: darkd3mon (big blind) showed [Kh Tc] and won ($9.30) with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 3: sauliux folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Humphrind showed [Kd As] and won ($10.80) with a pair of Tens
Seat 5: mrdarcy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Matttt B folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: suitedup_99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: NYBigB folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Blade_180 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
09-23-2004, 09:16 PM
Fnord

Well played. Once john_cnl called, your hand lost a lot of value in the main pot as AK tends to have the most value heads-up. Nothing you could have done about it though...
09-23-2004, 09:16 PM
fishstick

i don't know about your raise of the reraise (although you got all of your money in when you had the best hand). i assume you were trying to isolate the reraiser and were surprised when john_cnl called?

looks like good straight-forward play.
09-23-2004, 09:18 PM
Humphrind

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Well played. Once john_cnl called, your hand lost a lot of value in the main pot as AK tends to have the most value heads-up. Nothing you could have done about it though...

Thanks for the answer, you perfectly adressed my main question. I know this was correct in a tournament. But a ring game is a different story. We had talked in an earlier thread about creating your own +EV by creating a side pot. This is one of those situations?
09-23-2004, 09:21 PM
Humphrind

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishstick

i assume you were trying to isolate the reraiser and were surprised when john_cnl called?

Yes. This was me playing right out of a tournament. I didn't want anyone to call, so I re-raised all in. Hoping to scare others off. I didn't, but I had a heads up on the side pot (which a heads up is what I wanted anyway)
09-23-2004, 09:24 PM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humphrind

We had talked in an earlier thread about creating your own +EV by creating a side pot. This is one of those situations?

That more applies to limit where there are more little oportunities to drive value from a given position.

Here, you either want John to fold leaving behind money and getting you heads-up for the main pot or make a really big mistake by calling off the rest of his stack. It's really horrible for him to call here with less than AA/KK. Even QQ doesn't have much 3-way equity against your range of hands.

Good job setting up the lose/lose situation.
09-23-2004, 09:33 PM
Humphrind

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

That more applies to limit where there are more little oportunities to drive value from a given position.

But as I mentioned to Fishstick. I want my AK to go heads up (Tournament Humphrind here) and so by creating a side pot, and for this amount, I am going heads-up regardless. Either john folds and I go heads up against 1 person. Or john calls and I go heads up for the side pot and 3-way for the main pot. Either way I get what I want. Heads up for a pot.

Tell me what is flawed with this train of thought.
09-23-2004, 09:52 PM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humphrind

Tell me what is flawed with this train of thought.

Nothing.