flop top set lots of action 3way

[Razvan729]

BB is unknown

CO is an ATC caller pre, but doesnt play stupid postflop.

UTG's range pre is AJso, KQs, 22+. from what i seen him play and from my 3 hands with him, when he's calling CO's 3bet AI he is AJhh or KQs.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

UTG ($3.49)
UTG+1 ($12.28)
Hero (MP1) ($6.11)
MP2 ($5.10)
MP3 ($5)
CO ($2.30)
Button ($1.66)
SB ($5.20)
BB ($4.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with ,
UTG bets $0.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.20, 2 folds, CO calls $0.20, 2 folds, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.82) , , (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.05, Hero raises to $0.93, CO raises to $2.10 (All-In), 1 fold, UTG calls $2.05,

what does hero do? if i just call i am pot comitted, so have to go all the way then no matter turn card.

fold or shove over?

CO 3bet AI range here is any FD, sets, TP+FD, straights, 2pairs

UTG from what i seen him play and from my 3 hands with him, when he's calling CO's 3bet AI he is AJhh+ or KQs., 99-TT would bet strong not a minbet.

[NightGizmo]

You're way ahead of the CO's range, so if it was just him you couldn't possibly fold. For the UTG player, you claim that he would bet bigger with 99 or TT, but with a straight (KQs) he just minbets? Why?

Anyway, figure out each villain's range, put them into poker stove to get your equity, and then analyze the situation as if it's an all-in where the UTG shoved instead of called. Like you said -- if you call then you're committed for the rest of your stack anyway.

If you decide it's profitable, then I prefer shoving to calling simply because the odds are so slim that he would actually fold. And if he does fold, then he made a huge mistake somewhere in the hand, which means profit for you.

[Razvan729]

if UTG , forgot to put this read in post. he would bet strong sets to deny drawing odds on FD and straights, with a KQ he would play like this to make us bet , he has the best hand here. seen him do it with a set on a rainbow flop ( again best hand there) where he minbet then call, jamed turn.

how is the best way to analyze it and take the best decison in play, w/o stove on computer? i didnt have it when i played hand on that laptop.

i did stove it on my laptop after and vs 2 players with ranges i gave in post stove gives 37% to me , 52% UTG and 12% to CO.

[Hoopy]

Assuming UTG shoved.

pot = 0.82 + 0.05 + 0.93 + 2.1 + 3.24 = 7.14

bet = 2.31

bet/(bet + pot) = 2.31/9.45 = 24.4% equity needed.

Even if UTG only has KQ and CO mostly has hands like pair + OESD we still have 31 % equity.

[daviddem]

UTG has only $1.19 behind.

No way am I ever folding this even if I know everyone has made straights. Odds to boat up are more than good enough.

When pretending it's an all-in from UTG, it's a very easy call, as shown above.

imo UTG looks more like a flush draw than anything else. Gay bet followed by flat call, etc. Why would he open this stupid 0.05 if he had a good made hand?

[NightGizmo]

how is the best way to analyze it and take the best decison in play, w/o stove on computer? i didnt have it when i played hand on that laptop.

Practice in stove for common spots and memorize the results. A set vs. a made flush/straight has about 35% equity. A flush draw against a set has about 26%. A straight/flush combo draw (15 outs) has about 40% equity against a set.

On the table, you'll have to improvise when the spots aren't identical to what you memorized. In this case you'll have to add in the fact that the CO has some equity, which will be reduce the equity for you and UTG. It won't be perfectly accurate, but at least you'll have a decent estimate.

[Razvan729]

ok, ty for tips NightGizmo.