Alright, FTR'ers ever since stumbling on this site over a year ago it has become a second home to me. I am 18 in college up at SUNY Albany and for a job this summer I want to play poker. The money I am currently making monthly will suffice for a summer job and infact be way much more then I could possibly recieve doing another Full Time job working construction(my old job) or anything I could get for that matter. My parents dont approve of me playing but when im in college they cant do shit to me so I currently play as a part time job/build br but now comes the summer...

So heres the deal, my parents say I cannot live in the house without a job this summer. They do not consider poker a job, but are giving me a chance to explain it and myself and the situation to them over spring break and try and convince them. The fact is I am doubtfull this will work because my dad is very hard headed so well see. Basically I am asking you for your help, he has given me the points which he sees the problem with doing this for a job this summer. I plan to counter argue every point and have already started doing some research ect...

Here are my parents reasons

-Its Illegal - Does someone know of documentation that can prove this wrong because the fact is I know its not illegal for an 18 year old to play online poker if it is located off shore.


-Sedintary - I am a larger kid then avg wide sholders and have always been bulky, My parents have always been on top of me and I complain but again am thankful because It has keepen me dramatically skinnier then I could imagine without them nagging. So anyway I cant argue this much because the fact is I will be sitting in a chair, but I am offering to get a gym membership for the summer and go at least once a day 6 days a week just to shut them up.

-Gain Social Skills - This makes me laugh, I have many friends I hang out with every day at school, I have many friends at home that I hang out with every night over vacations and most likely a majority of the nights this summer, my father says that he still is learning social skills now at his office and that not working with other people I will not develop proper social skills. I think thats a joke but anything I could use to argue this point?

-Guarenteed Revenue - This is easy and vcq has already helped me, thanks buddy , My father is a comp sci major, so I am going to explain the concept of EV, and pot odds, and use pokerstove to create hands and show him even if im underdog to win if I play according to pot odds and make +EV moves over the long run it is a profitable game. The fact about guarenteed revenue is a little valid in the sense that there is variance and I can take a huge swing, that is why my goal is a 3k Br this summer which will be suffecient for the 25 2 table turbos on stars. It is give or take 120 buyins, and of course if I take a huge hit I will drop to the 15's. I think with this kind of BR for the buyins I am playing and the money I need to live this summer even if I lose half my stack 1.5k-2k for the summer is very suffecient if I cashed my BR so I could live.


-SCHOOL GRADES... - This point just pisses me off. I told him my goal is to play professionally when I have the experience and BR and means to support myself. He wants me to finish college before I attempt this but said he would support me. The fact is this summer I am not in school so school grades are not relevant in this arguement.


Alright FTR'ers to anyone who helps I would be very gratefull. The fact is if I cannot convince my parents I will be living either with a buddy or my cousin this summer and playing poker, but I rather not burn that bridge with my father especially in something this simple.

PLEASE and Thanks