Top pair, top kicker vs donk

[Ace isTrumps]

Notes on this guy are : call all in with Q9o... continuously pushes all in on flop or turn
PokerStars Game #10897261246: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2007/07/12 - 06:21:39 (ET)
Table 'Minkar V' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: fernerburner ($7.30 in chips)
Seat 2: longmen707 ($27.40 in chips)
Seat 3: basemen ($6 in chips)
Seat 4: JrJEk ($11.15 in chips)
Seat 5: DaSkip15 ($6.20 in chips)
Seat 6: Ace isTrumps ($12.90 in chips)
DaSkip15: posts small blind $0.05
Ace isTrumps: posts big blind $0.10
basemen: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ace isTrumps [Ac Kc]
fernerburner: folds
longmen707: folds
basemen: checks
JrJEk: raises $0.40 to $0.50
DaSkip15: folds
Ace isTrumps: calls $0.40
basemen: folds
*** FLOP *** [8c As Jd]
Ace isTrumps: checks
JrJEk: bets $1
Ace isTrumps: calls $1
*** TURN *** [8c As Jd] [2h]
Ace isTrumps: checks
JrJEk: bets $9.65 and is all-in
Ace isTrumps: ??????

[Muzzard]

Given your notes an easy call, no?

The only hands that you're really worried about are AJ/88/JJ.

Why are you not reraising preflop?
Why are you checking the flop here, except to c/r? or trap for the turn?

To make decisions a little easier I'm reraising preflop and leading out the flop. I doubt Villain has a set as he would likely be seeking more value, I also doubt he has AJ either. The over push is a little weird, drawing?

[Da GOAT]

whats the decision?? you specifically altered your play to set him up. whats the question?

[Ace isTrumps]

Given your notes an easy call, no?

The only hands that you're really worried about are AJ/88/JJ.

Why are you not reraising preflop?
Why are you checking the flop here, except to c/r? or trap for the turn?

To make decisions a little easier I'm reraising preflop and leading out the flop. I doubt Villain has a set as he would likely be seeking more value, I also doubt he has AJ either. The over push is a little weird, drawing?

I don't reraise AK, EVER, it's just a drawing hand like any other non pair, besides my post flop skills imo are elite and i make much more money post flop then pre so i'm always more willing to see a flop then to see him reraise all in which would force me to fold.

Trying to control the pot size by check/calling to keep it small.

Also i'm out of position which is another BIG factor.

[Muzzard]

I don't reraise AK, EVER, it's just a drawing hand like any other non pair, besides my post flop skills imo are elite and i make much more money post flop then pre so i'm always more willing to see a flop then to see him reraise all in which would force me to fold.

Trying to control the pot size by check/calling to keep it small.

Also i'm out of position which is another BIG factor.

I have to LOL at most of these points

a) You should be reraising AK.
b) Why are trying to control pot size when you say he is a donk, we should be bloating pot to get it AI if he has a tendancy to call down with mediocre hands
c) You are OOP ok, but still you should be willing to get it all in given your read.

call all in with Q9o... continuously pushes all in on flop or turn

BE HAPPY TO GET IT ALL IN, no questions.

Also, looking at all of your posts to date I can say your post-flop game is not as good as you seem to think it is.

[Ace isTrumps]

lol ok buddy, i turned 5 free dollars into 1100 in a couple weeks, went on tilt and played a 110 220 and 520 heads up sng, lost all 3 to rotten cards, tilted the rest back to 50, took a day off then built it all the way back up to nearly 700 in a week destroying the 10 dollar nl tables to where i'm currently at.

I think i'm the best poker player not only on here but on all of poker stars and i'm serious too.

Go ahead and lol at my points, i don't care, if you actually agreed, then i wouldn't be crushing people like you left right and center.

Ps. I folded the above hand, he flashed AA.

have a nice day.

[Da GOAT]

I don't reraise AK, EVER, it's just a drawing hand like any other non pair, besides my post flop skills imo are elite and i make much more money post flop then pre so i'm always more willing to see a flop then to see him reraise all in which would force me to fold.

Based on your last two non-question ''im awesome'' type threads i did think you have an ego then bamm. How can you beleive you are ''elite'? There are players here that play stakes way higher than 10NL wh are still humble and learning.

If im wrong then im happy to apologise, i say this not to attack you but the sooner you put ego out the door you will developed faster.

BTW no RR'ing AKs EVER is horrible. why would you not develop your preflo skillz into elite status?'

[Muzzard]

LOL, is that the only reason you posted. Thinly veiled brag post?

Let me post a hand where I have a read that it's basically a must call, get everyone to say it's call, then say he had the nutz and I folded. HOW GOOD AM I?!

The Villain played it awfully if he had AA, so much for value.

EDIT: You are neither the best player on here or starts GTD. I'm not saying that I'm good. I'm ok, I make a little money here and there and I know for sure there are some decent players on this site.

[noble007]

That was a great thread.
I just knew when I got to the part where it said 'My post flop skills are 'elite'
it was going to be fun
& where you referred to the villian is your other A10 hand as the 'victim' - The poor innocent fool at the mercy of your superior post flop play?
I must admit the way you cleverly disguised yourself as a calling station was a lesson in itself.

Well the good news is it only took a week to get $700 bucks at 10Nl, so now you're rolled to make $1500 next week at 25NL and guess what then its 50Nl,100 etc! At this rate if you continue your streak in two months you could be playing the 2000NL game on stars & be on your way to being a millionaire!

(My advice would be not to wait to have the full 20 buy ins before moving up to the next level, that is just a silly rule some of the mediocre players have to help them deal with variance and sub-optimal play. If you're the best - or at least pretty close then 10 Buy ins should be more than enough.)

[Da GOAT]

HU 4rollz plz

(thought id get it in b4 spenda posts)

[mcatdog]

I think i'm the best poker player not only on here but on all of poker stars and i'm serious too.

Heads-up?

[Da GOAT]

lol lifedonk,

i actually missed your best playa ever post.

I am humble to have meet you and to have had this enlightning converstaion. Please send me your stars screename so I may ship monies to you as a way of apologies, and if that does not please you then please pick any ne of my sisters and i will proudly ship her to you too. If you do not hold interest in the female persuasions then i shall gladly pack myself in the closest cardboard box and my family will weep as the wrap me up and drop me off at the post-office.

I will also sacrafice 12 virgins in your honour to please you so you wont put a plague on my house or block out the sun so my crops wont yield me enough to survive the cold cold winters we have here in Ireland.

[Ace isTrumps]

That was a great thread.
I just knew when I got to the part where it said 'My post flop skills are 'elite'
it was going to be fun
& where you referred to the villian is your other A10 hand as the 'victim' - The poor innocent fool at the mercy of your superior post flop play?
I must admit the way you cleverly disguised yourself as a calling station was a lesson in itself.

Well the good news is it only took a week to get $700 bucks at 10Nl, so now you're rolled to make $1500 next week at 25NL and guess what then its 50Nl,100 etc! At this rate if you continue your streak in two months you could be playing the 2000NL game on stars & be on your way to being a millionaire!

(My advice would be not to wait to have the full 20 buy ins before moving up to the next level, that is just a silly rule some of the mediocre players have to help them deal with variance and sub-optimal play. If you're the best - or at least pretty close then 10 Buy ins should be more than enough.)

What makes you think iv'e never played the highest level NL cash games online or live? Just because iv'e turned a free 5 dollars into 700, you shouldn't assume that is my level because i can you tell son, it's not and seriously you are in no position to give me advice, not you or anyone here. I post to see what donks think, it helps me to know the psychology of lesser players and how you lot would play each hand.

However i must reply to your attempt to bait me. I like yourself i'm sure, have seen people go on the most amazing streaks. Not only the other day did i trap a very good player, the only good player iv'e seen actually at the 10 nl level for 4 buyins in a 30 minute streak. I took him set over set, set over 2p, completely outplayed him for another buyin and got him AA vs KK. I believe even Brian Towsend talked about losing 9 buyins in his worst run. Point is, it happens and can happen to anyone regardless of skill. I believe some have coined it "short term luck" , you know... the thing you lot thrive on.

Oh yes, the way you lot play regardless of my skills, i want to be more then rolled before i move up to 25 nl and beyond, no doubt i will continue to see horror beats. Besides i stuff around from time to time trying new things blowing 50 here and there. Playing the odd tournament for fun rather then skill trying to outdonk other players as a form of release.... (i'm rambling now.... )

later dear friend.

[bigspenda73]

HU 4rollz plz

HU 4rollz now must be played in O8b sng's.

[Muzzard]

and a ban? LOL

[Da GOAT]

Not only the other day did i trap a very good player, the only good player iv'e seen actually at the 10 nl level for 4 buyins in a 30 minute streak. I took him set over set, set over 2p, completely outplayed him for another buyin and got him AA vs KK.

I dont see how you outplayed him then. Opp has quality hands, trapping/slowplaying is a terribly play at 10NL since opp's pay-off so light anyway. In fact your slowplaying is probably costing you alot of money anyway.

Of course I assume your playing 10NL since you post such a hand. It seems obv that you busted at all other level.

[Ash256]

I might be talking to a troll here, but:-

- If you have a read that he got it in pre with Q9o, then fuck me, get it in pre! Not reraising before the flop is just retarded with that read.. You coulda just valueshoved pre.

Continue with your attitude and you're gonna have a big fall. Seriously.

[Da GOAT]

sure if it is a troll then he is even more of a lifedonk

[bigred]

This thread entertains me. Perhaps I will wander out of the commune more frequently.

[Ace isTrumps]

lol at "troll" .... Hell look at sharkscope, it'll even show my 900 dollar downswing in like 3 games which justifies what i say as fact, i have no need to lie about a thing, i sure as hell wouldnt mention blowing 95% of my roll and i sure as hell wouldnt say im the best player ever unless i knew it was true (minus bankroll management which i'm working on, but hell even the best had issues there) but no doubt i am urging you simpletons on. If thats trolling, then i'm guilty as charged.

[mcatdog]

Guys I think you should take back anything bad you said about this guy, his elite postflop skills are on display in this hand that he posted in the bad beats forum.

PokerStars GAME #10867716014: TOURNAMENT #55057697, $2.00+$0.20 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL IV (50/100) - 2007/07/10 - 14:04:53 (ET)
Table '55057697 15' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: FF01001 (1075 in chips)
Seat 2: norlandphil (3820 in chips)
Seat 3: z1zz1 (1920 in chips)
Seat 5: Clownage69 (3350 in chips)
Seat 6: Ace isTrumps (2715 in chips)
Seat 7: blackcaddy83 (2000 in chips)
Seat 8: SWBregenz (1800 in chips)
Seat 9: Plassmann (5455 in chips)
SWBregenz: posts small blind 50
Plassmann: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ace isTrumps [2s 2d]
FF01001: folds
norlandphil: calls 100
z1zz1: folds
Clownage69: calls 100
Ace isTrumps: calls 100
blackcaddy83: folds
SWBregenz: calls 50
Plassmann: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kh 9h 2c]
SWBregenz: checks
Plassmann: bets 100
norlandphil: folds
Clownage69: calls 100
Ace isTrumps: raises 300 to 400
SWBregenz: folds
Plassmann: calls 300
Clownage69: folds
*** TURN *** [Kh 9h 2c] [Qh]
Plassmann: bets 100
Ace isTrumps: calls 100
*** RIVER *** [Kh 9h 2c Qh] [Kc]
Plassmann: bets 100
Ace isTrumps: raises 2015 to 2115 and is all-in
Plassmann: calls 2015
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ace isTrumps: shows [2s 2d] (a full house, Deuces full of Kings)
Plassmann: shows [Qc Ks] (a full house, Kings full of Queens)
Plassmann collected 5830 from pot
al47777 is connected
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5830 | Rake 0
Board [Kh 9h 2c Qh Kc]
Seat 1: FF01001 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: norlandphil folded on the Flop
Seat 3: z1zz1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Clownage69 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Ace isTrumps showed [2s 2d] and lost with a full house, Deuces full of Kings
Seat 7: blackcaddy83 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: SWBregenz (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Plassmann (big blind) showed [Qc Ks] and won (5830) with a full house, Kings full of Queens

[Muzzard]

LOL @ elite post flop skills above!

[bigred]

LOL @ 31337 post flop skills above!

fyp

[apunisher]

Go ahead and lol at my points, i don't care, if you actually agreed, then i wouldn't be crushing people like you left right and center.

its a little hard to be crushing all of us ppl when no one giving you advice plays 10NL

[IowaSkinsFan]

I'll play you HU whatever stakes you want if it gets you to shut up about how good you are because your not.

[zook]

{locked}

[gabe]

since everyone seems to love HU.........i would love to play anyone HU as long as stakes are 1/2 are above and minimum 3 tables. PM me.