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    Default 100NL,my line was too weak

    villain was unknown but looked donkish over 17 hands. Do you guys often call these river bets given good pot odds? what else can i do to contest the pot with medium strength hands OOP?
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    Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 7
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 3 folds, CO raises to $5, Button calls $5, 1 fold, Hero calls $4, UTG+1 calls $4

    Flop: ($20.50) 2, 5, 2 (4 players)
    Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets $6, 1 fold, Hero calls $6, UTG+1 calls $6

    Turn: ($38.50) 6 (3 players)
    Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks

    River: ($38.50) 10 (3 players)
    Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $10, 1 fold, Hero ?
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    I probably give him a courtesy call.
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    I might raise this weak flop bet and see if he likes his hand more than I like mine.
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    the bet is small, i'd just call here
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    Exactly, the bet is small on the flop.

    That's why I do what I do.

    As played, I don't see how you can do anything but call the river...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cardsman1992
    I might raise this weak flop bet and see if he likes his hand more than I like mine.
    A flop raise turns your hand into a bluff, which still might be right. It's not a "where am I at" raise. The bitch of it is that he might peel light so you should probably follow-through a lot on the turn and before you know it we're playing for stacks... Perfectly reasonable way to play the hand though if you think he'll blink first or the river will sometimes go check, check, scoop.
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    I think this is missed overs enough that I certainly follow through on a safe turn.

    A lot of times they fold like the scared kitties they are though....
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    Quote Originally Posted by cardsman1992
    I might raise this weak flop bet and see if he likes his hand more than I like mine.
    do you raise this often in multiway pot ? The pot was bloated already preflop.
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    When no one else shows more than a passive interest in the pot? Sure.

    Pretty easy to dump IMO if UTG+1 decides to wake up.
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    If you think he's calling with overs a lot then raising flop seems like pure spew, unless you're sure he will call raise a lot then fold turn but that's a pretty complex read you've got and you have to play OOP...

    Hand is perfect if you call imo.
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    I definitely call given the price on the river and the way that it played out.
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    Good to know how you guys handle these marginal small-medium-pot situations
    His ATo scooped the pot.
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    Bloated pot, nobody seems to want it with their missed overs...TAG opener, passive BB, every intention of raising if TAG cbets.....sure it's risky and you get picked off here and there, but you have to pick your spots like any other non standard play....

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    Preflop: cardsman is SB with 10, 10
    1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $7, 5 folds, cardsman calls $6, BB calls $5

    Flop: ($21) 5, 8, 6 (3 players)
    cardsman checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks

    Turn: ($21) 3 (3 players)
    cardsman bets $15, 2 folds

    Total pot: $21 | Rake: $1.05
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    Quote Originally Posted by cardsman1992
    Bloated pot, nobody seems to want it with their missed overs...TAG opener, passive BB, every intention of raising if TAG cbets.....sure it's risky and you get picked off here and there, but you have to pick your spots like any other non standard play....

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    MP2 ($314)
    MP3 ($206.30)

    Preflop: cardsman is SB with 10, 10
    1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $7, 5 folds, cardsman calls $6, BB calls $5

    Flop: ($21) 5, 8, 6 (3 players)
    cardsman checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks

    Turn: ($21) 3 (3 players)
    cardsman bets $15, 2 folds

    Total pot: $21 | Rake: $1.05
    I'd also lead out on the turn with 77-JJ here. My 77 hand is in a little bit different situation, i guess.
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    44-99 would be standard value leads. JJ plays more like my hand here. Situation in OP is slightly different, just pointing out that you can exploit weakness pretty darn easily.
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