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  1. #1
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    Default Is this standard?

    Ok, I have been trying to take shots at 100NL for about 6 months and i've finally become a bit profitable.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero ($87.45)
    Button ($280.10)
    SB ($100.50)
    BB ($40.25)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7, 8.
    Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold.

    Flop: ($9) 7, 5, 5 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $6, SB raises to $16, Hero raises to $30, SB folds.

    Final Pot: $55



    I've been very aggressive PF, with a wide range of hands. I'm only about 20% PF, but I'm about 18% raise with the other 2% being PP. I raise a lot even with marginal hands in the CO (to button steal) and on the button with a lot of ppl folding frustrated.

    Should I be this bold with re-raises with this strong of a hand, considering my image? I don't play many hands but I play them pretty aggressively.

    Or is this way too weak of a re-raise and I got lucky? Is it even worth it with such a marginal hand with little chance to improve? I sense some extent of people playing back at me, but it's been hard to pin down when they are and when they aren't. Seems like a lot to risk.
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    This is one of the standard spots where alot of players will tend to raise with foldable hands when they think youve missed, but they tend to slowplay more often when they hit. Its an ok time to 4bet light but dont take it too far if he sticks around. Also make sure you arent doing this against someone who doesnt slowplay.
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    do u have reads on sb?

    i think calling the c/r is more standard.

    but this seems ok, hopefully u get info (like insta call is prob a flush draw...or was bluffing if he folds the flop).
    hope u have an plan though if he continues in the hand.
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    I'd raise it a bit more. Sure, it looks strong, but it gives OESDs and even overs decent odds to continue, and if you do get called you're likely to have to make a very tricky decision on the turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by biondino
    I'd raise it a bit more. Sure, it looks strong, but it gives OESDs and even overs decent odds to continue, and if you do get called you're likely to have to make a very tricky decision on the turn.
    yea sometimes we forget bets that look "strong" like almost min bets when repping paired board trips etc may be fun and look nice but give people odds when raising more would acomplish the same thing
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    sometimes I wonder if a fold here is better, because it costs so much with a marginal hand. But I think when we start folding to re-raises too often we lose our aggressive edge on cbets and get played back at too much.

    maybe im a bit lazy topping up while mtt, but I often wait till its down $15 at $100nl.
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    your bet sizes are looking way better mixchange.

    i prefer just calling the checkraise. he'll fold any worse hand to us to a reraise, but he will probably call with any better hands unless he's paranoid about always being bluffed.
    if he's tight we could actually get hands like A9 to fold. But I don't think a lot of players fold A9 since it's a smallish reraise by us.

    I think it's okay to fold to the CR by villain here. If villain bets his good hands aggressively and you think he's likely to bet the turn too, I would probably fold.
    If I feel he's playing back at me a lot I'l just call the flop CR and then call a turn cbet too. If he then leads river too I fold. If he makes a strong turn bet (ie PSB) I would probably fold the turn.

    Is just calling the flop CR to passive? Should I be reraising as mixchange did?
    Reasons not to reraise are to keep the pot small and we have position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by biondino
    I'd raise it a bit more. Sure, it looks strong, but it gives OESDs and even overs decent odds to continue, and if you do get called you're likely to have to make a very tricky decision on the turn.
    Raise more? We're already risking $30 to win $31.. if you want to give him a PSB to call you'd have to raise to over $60, not sure if that's such a good idea with risk/award.. cuz if he sticks around we're pretty much done with the hand.

    Then again, I'm not too good in deciding reraise amounts. If I have to reraise enough to cut down odds I basically have to raise so hard it'll fold out everything I can beat. Still struggling with this.

    As played, your hand becomes mostly obsolete, he's not gonna stick around with a draw on a paired board, so it's mostly a "who has the biggest balls" contest now..

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